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Ok, so I'm trying to render all of my tracks individually so I can mix them in Acid (I'm faster in Acid right now and time is of the essence)

*EACH TRACK* is a ~53 meg .wav?! So if I have a track that's just a "whoosh" at measure 34, that is *also* a 53 meg .wav file?!

Please tell me I'm missing something obvious!

There's nothing within a 1-measure-long .wav file to tell Acid to play your whoosh after 33 bars of silence.

Therefore it requires and actual 33 bars of silence!

And that takes up just as much room as 33 bars of heavy metal

If you've got extreme examples like that track, why not skip rendering them and place the 'whoosh' file manually in your other program?

You could render individual tracks only during relevant time spans, but then you'd similarly need to have notes on where to place them in the next app

That is just what rendering all tracks individually is...
It works this way so that you can easily align your tracks in another DAW.

TrierMusic wrote:Please tell me I'm missing something obvious!

You are

Khazul wrote:

TrierMusic wrote:Please tell me I'm missing something obvious!

You are

Please tell me what I'm missing that's obvious!

Does Acid support rewire? Seems like that would be a lot easier than export/import.

tempus3r wrote:Does Acid support rewire? Seems like that would be a lot easier than export/import.

rewiring to another program and re-recording/tracking the parts in there would only be beneficial if you record only the specific parts which have audio otherwise if you rewire all the tracks an djust hit record, you have the same thing... full length tracks

sweetjesus wrote:

tempus3r wrote:Does Acid support rewire? Seems like that would be a lot easier than export/import.

rewiring to another program and re-recording/tracking the parts in there would only be beneficial if you record only the specific parts which have audio otherwise if you rewire all the tracks an djust hit record, you have the same thing... full length tracks

No, if his point is that he want's to mix in Acid, rewire would mean he'd be able to route the audio channels in ableton to Acid faders and mix it there. It would not re-render any files. So, not the same.

Trier! Your Soul Cryptographers gig was dope!

What you can do is not highlight the whole track, just the 1 measure (you may have to clip it out with ctrl-e), then render. Only the selected audio will get written/rendered. You would have to reposition the measure in Acid, manually, but the clip would be a lot shorter.

You could also render the whole track, silence and all, and then clip the silence off in Acid after the tracks are lined up. So it takes up more space, but only when you first assemble the project in Acid.

Acid was the "big breakthrough" app for me too, back when I was using a PC. GB on the mac was cake after having done work with Acid Music, and now I'm using Live and it is making my head hurt at times, but it is still the best app I have used so far.

doot!

if you are emailing the files, would 'zip'ping them compress the silence away?

Is there a render all tracks as individual files option or do you have to render track one, wait for that, then render track 2 etc etc??

TrierMusic wrote:

Khazul wrote:

TrierMusic wrote:Please tell me I'm missing something obvious!

You are

Please tell me what I'm missing that's obvious!

Unlike MP3 files, silence takes the same space as lots of noise on a WAV/AIFF file!

You can still compress the files with a lossless format (meaning you won't lose audio quality) such as ZIP, WMA Lossless or FLAC...

ableton and max/msp can solve all of your rendering issues

Consolidate some tracks that have lots of silence into one! Post mixing, of course.
Alternatively, buy a bigger hard drive. They are super cheap these days.

can't you just consolidate the audiofiles in the session that you want, (not render the whole track), and then browse to where ever your project files are stored once you're in acid and just drag them over into the song?