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Hey everyone,
Need a little help figuring this out.

When I build up a track I usually record everything as loops and then mess around with arrangement view until I get things set up the way I want.

Here's my issue:
I laid down a midi part using Abelton's Organ patch from the new instrument library. I had to use the sustain pedal on some parts to free up my hands.

As loops everything sounds fine, but when I switch the stuff over to arrangement view, things get weird.

It's basically like my sustain pedal will get stuck on and every midi note will just continue to ring out until I press the stop button.

Basically, what I need to know is if there is some kind of sustain pedal automation I can control in Ableton. I know the sustain pedal is just another midi signal, but I don't know how I can adjust it.

Please let me know.

Thanks
stick

I sometimes (OK, often...) find that the sustain pedal will get stuck ON at the end of a playback pass where it was active. i.e. there is no OFF message when you stop the transport.

But pressing the pedal down to clear it solves this, and then the recorded sustain pedal automation plays fine.

Is this what you are experiencing or is it something worse?

Yeah, that's was one of the ways I would fix it. However, I just found foot pedal automation under the clip envelope at the bottom of the page, I think that should clear up my issues. Thank you though for your reply.

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stickmartin wrote:Hey everyone,
Need a little help figuring this out.

When I build up a track I usually record everything as loops and then mess around with arrangement view until I get things set up the way I want.

Here's my issue:
I laid down a midi part using Abelton's Organ patch from the new instrument library. I had to use the sustain pedal on some parts to free up my hands.

As loops everything sounds fine, but when I switch the stuff over to arrangement view, things get weird.

It's basically like my sustain pedal will get stuck on and every midi note will just continue to ring out until I press the stop button.

Basically, what I need to know is if there is some kind of sustain pedal automation I can control in Ableton. I know the sustain pedal is just another midi signal, but I don't know how I can adjust it.

Please let me know.

Thanks
stick

It´s a very old problem of LIVE that still drives me nuts sometimes. Seems like no other LIVEuser plays a keyboard, and so the abletons don´t have to sort it out. The reason for the hold pedal remaining down is: If you stop a midi clip on a position where the pedal is down and go to the startpoint of the clip, the pedal remains pressed down instead of taking the status of the clip´s beginning. Don´t know who´s idea that was and what reason for...Problems like this, there are some similar ones that make it nearly impossible to use LIVE live made me stop investing in Ableton.

Is this a problem in Live?

Its been a problem with every sequencer I've ever used, that if you Loop a section where the sustain pedal gets turned on... then you delete/never play the section where it gets turned off... well, it stays on.

MIDI CC64 is the sustain pedal continuous controller number. try putting a "0" value in the automation lane where you need it turned off.

As was mentioned earlier, pressing it again also works. two on commands in a row does nothing, but can give you the Off command you need/lost.

laird wrote:Is this a problem in Live?

Its been a problem with every sequencer I've ever used, that if you Loop a section where the sustain pedal gets turned on... then you delete/never play the section where it gets turned off... well, it stays on.

MIDI CC64 is the sustain pedal continuous controller number. try putting a "0" value in the automation lane where you need it turned off.

As was mentioned earlier, pressing it again also works. two on commands in a row does nothing, but can give you the Off command you need/lost.

Can´t remember having this issue in cubase earlier, but maybe I didn´t use it that way. I mean this shouldn´t be. I cannot edit automation playing live.

Well, some sequencers have a function ... "MIDI Follow" was how mastertrax! called it, i think...

where the sequencer would actually look behind where you hit play to see what any CC value should be. That way if nothing was specified at the exact moment in the song where you hit play from, you didn't just hear settings from elsewhere in the song.

Whether the squencer does it for you or not, you gotta send a CC64=0 message

the midi cc 64 doesn't solve the sustain problem for me

any more ideas?

i'm using Jazz Organ and Electro Arp (Analog)

I still can't find the sustain pedal automation..

edit: found the answer:
in track view, click on the track you wish to edit the automation.. then click Envelope.. then select 64.. voila

Thank you very much. I was searching the soluion of my problem from long time and atlast i got here. Great information ! Keep it up man!

edit: found the answer:
in track view, click on the track you wish to edit the automation.. then click Envelope.. then select 64.. voila[/quote]

I had the same problem of sustain being stuck, the above fix totally worked, thanks all, was beginning to feel like Ableton was deliberately fucking with me.

It's not just Live...any MIDI sequencer will have this sort of problem if you stop recording before you release the sustain pedal or if you're editing the data and accidentally delete the bar with the pedal release msg.

This is true of recording any CC actually. Depending on which CC it is and how that maps to the receiving device all kinds of strange things can happen.

Solved by a wonderful user: https://www.maxforlive.com/library/devi ... 5707#13492

I solved this by using this: https://www.maxforlive.com/library/devi ... tain-pedal

If sustain is ever stuck I just have to click "off" with it and sustain is now off.