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so live 5 started crashing....
i figure update to 6

everything before started to unexpectedly quiting..
now with live 6 nothing of my years of work will open..

it just keeps on unexpectedly quiting..

i tried to do a manage files with ablton 6 ..
it said something about nested files...and putting them in a different place..
i do have different projects in differnet folders and in different places..
also back ups and trax and folders on an external hardrive..
maybe it the names of the live sets that are overlapping..?

can any one tell me the way things should be organized...?

also if that is the reason for the crashing..?

thanx
nasty

so this is the info from it unexpectedly quiting.

Date/Time: 2007-08-28 20:55:33.118 -0300
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R218)
Report Version: 4

Command: Live
Path: /Live 6.0.9 OS X/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
Parent: WindowServer [60]

Version: 6.0.9 (6.0.9)

PID: 234
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0x00000000 0 + 0
1 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0e561c84
AudioContextProcessorOutputDevice::GetLayout(unsigned long, unsigned
long, AudioChannelLayout**) + 500
2 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0e56398c
AudioContextProcessorOutputDevice::CreateProcessor() + 860
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0e557e3c
AudioContextChannel::AddProcessor(unsigned long,
AudioProcessorDescription*) + 316
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bddbd4 CallComponent + 260
5 com.apple.QuickTime 0x94a9ed58 AudioContextAddProcessor + 44
6 com.apple.QuickTime 0x948453f0
AudioContextManager::CreateContext(ComponentDescription*,
AudioProcessorDescription*, ComponentInstanceRecord**) + 864
7 com.apple.QuickTime 0x94a8321c QTAudioDeviceContextCreate + 288
8 com.apple.QuickTime 0x94a833d4
QTAudioContextCreateForAudioDevice + 96
9 com.apple.QuickTime 0x94844b90 setupTrackAudioSubContext + 324
10 com.apple.QuickTime 0x9489f874 NewTrackMediaLocal_priv + 744
11 com.apple.QuickTime 0x9489f55c NewTrackMedia_priv + 132
12 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0dfba8b0 __mp3ImportDataRef + 2976
13 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bde1e8
CallComponentFunctionCommon + 1456
14 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bddbd4 CallComponent + 260
15 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0e53cf90 MovieImportDataRef + 80
16 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0dfb7a78 __mp3ImportFile + 136
17 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bde1e8
CallComponentFunctionCommon + 1456
18 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bddbd4 CallComponent + 260
19 com.apple.QuickTime 0x948b46ac MovieImportFile + 72
20 com.apple.QuickTime 0x948b45b0
newMovieFromFileFromComponent + 524
21 com.apple.QuickTime 0x9481efc4
getNewMovieFromFileUsingImporters + 1072
22 com.apple.QuickTime 0x9481e848 NewMovieFromFilePriv + 676
23 com.apple.QuickTime 0x948e489c NewMovieFromFile_priv + 20
24 com.apple.QuickTime 0x948e4868 NewMovieFromFile + 72
25 com.ableton.live 0x00da9868 receive_samples + 9502432
26 com.ableton.live 0x01296700 dyld_stub_ShowCursor + 1663432
27 com.ableton.live 0x00da8fb4 receive_samples + 9500204
28 com.ableton.live 0x00dd66f4 receive_samples + 9686380
29 com.ableton.live 0x00dd5b18 receive_samples + 9683344
30 com.ableton.live 0x00dcdd84 receive_samples + 9651196
31 com.ableton.live 0x00dd31f0 receive_samples + 9672808
32 com.ableton.live 0x00dd456c receive_samples + 9677796
33 com.ableton.live 0x00e194f8 receive_samples + 9960304
34 com.ableton.live 0x00e1085c receive_samples + 9924308
35 com.ableton.live 0x00df0c48 receive_samples + 9794240
36 com.ableton.live 0x00f2be64 receive_samples + 11085020
37 com.ableton.live 0x00afd434 receive_samples + 6699692
38 com.ableton.live 0x00afcc64 receive_samples + 6697692
39 com.ableton.live 0x00afcbac receive_samples + 6697508
40 com.ableton.live 0x010d9c30 receive_samples + 12845736
41 com.ableton.live 0x010da1c0 receive_samples + 12847160
42 com.ableton.live 0x010d6760 receive_samples + 12832216
43 com.ableton.live 0x0106d4a4 receive_samples + 12401436
44 com.ableton.live 0x0106c55c receive_samples + 12397524
45 com.ableton.live 0x0132e44c dyld_stub_ShowCursor + 2285332
46 com.ableton.live 0x010746b0 receive_samples + 12430632
47 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93297934
DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*,
HandlerCallRec*) + 692
48 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9329708c
SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*,
HandlerCallRec*) + 372
49 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9329de90 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
50 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9332a224
HandleMouseEventForWindow(OpaqueWindowPtr*, OpaqueEventRef*, unsigned
short) + 236
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HandleMouseEvent(OpaqueEventRef*) + 368
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ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*,
OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 496
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DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*,
HandlerCallRec*) + 1284
54 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9329708c
SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*,
HandlerCallRec*) + 372
55 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9329de90 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
56 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932dec04 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 92
57 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932deb90 HLTBEventDispatcher + 16
58 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932dd148 RunApplicationEventLoop + 148
59 com.ableton.live 0x01072c98 receive_samples + 12423952
60 com.ableton.live 0x0049a1c8 receive_samples + 2112
61 dyld 0x8fe01048 _dyld_start + 60

Thread 1:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b9bac8
XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 84
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b8ec80 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 64
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b92f44 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 28
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x96b9c87c CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
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1 com.ableton.live 0x008a82c0 receive_samples + 4254008
2 com.ableton.live 0x00851d48 receive_samples + 3900352
3 com.ableton.live 0x01121aec dyld_stub_ShowCursor + 136628
4 com.ableton.live 0x008a3b28 receive_samples + 4235680
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907ddba8 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dd4ac CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145863c
HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 264
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914583dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900411f8 mach_wait_until + 8
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfce28 MPDelayUntil + 60
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfcc70 Delay + 124
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x098564b0 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 3096
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x0988ea08 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 233840
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002f08c kevent + 12
1 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92af4eb0
TFSNotificationTask::FSNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 56
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc57b0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3c8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90030eac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc59a0 MPWaitOnQueue + 224
3 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92af552c
TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 116
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc57b0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054388
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90070be8
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91469794
CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 204
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914696a4
CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 304
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914678e8 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 852
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91467580
HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 16
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914583dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054388
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90070be8
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf8410 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x0db18174
ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 5316
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054388
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90070be8
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf8410 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90c02eb8 AIOFileThread(void*) + 520
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x0000000000000000 srr1: 0x000000004200d030
vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x44222222 xer: 0x0000000000000007 lr:
0x000000000e54f6e8 ctr: 0x0000000000000000
r0: 0x000000000e54f6e8 r1: 0x00000000bfffcc20 r2:
0x00000000000001b3 r3: 0x000000000c3538b0
r4: 0x0000000000000034 r5: 0x00000000700044f4 r6:
0x0000000000000001 r7: 0x0000000036256e69
r8: 0x0000000090bddbd4 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10:
0x0000000091448734 r11: 0x0000000044222228
r12: 0x0000000000000000 r13: 0x0000000024222282 r14:
0x00000000bfffd24c r15: 0x0000000002c0be34
r16: 0x0000000000000001 r17: 0x00000000bfffd80c r18:
0x00000000bfffd800 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x00000000bfffd1d8 r21: 0x0000000001752488 r22:
0x000000001dc57d10 r23: 0x0000000000000000
r24: 0x000000000c3538b0 r25: 0x0000000000000000 r26:
0x0000000000000034 r27: 0x00000000bfffcccc
r28: 0x000000000b982860 r29: 0x00000000fffff778 r30:
0x000000000c3538b0 r31: 0x000000000e563640

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Model: PowerBook5,6, BootROM 4.9.1f1, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (1.2),
1.67 GHz, 2 GB
Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, ATY,RV360M11, AGP, 64 MB
Memory Module: SODIMM0/J25LOWER, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC2700U-25330
Memory Module: SODIMM1/J25UPPER, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC2700U-25330
AirPort: AirPort Extreme, 405.1 (3.90.34.0.p18)
Modem: Jump, V.92, Version 1.0
Bluetooth: Version 1.7.14f14, 2 service, 0 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
PCI Card: TXN,PCIXXXX-00, cardbus, PC Card
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-845E
Parallel ATA Device: FUJITSU MHT2080AH, 74.53 GB
USB Device: LaCie HD Drive, LaCie, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Bluetooth HCI, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard/Trackpad, Apple Computer, Up to 12
Mb/sec, 500 mA

managing nested projects not possible..
it is recommended that you move them to a different location..


this was not a problem until my last gig...
then it got worse.

and now all my old projects crash..

YEAH ..

i am calling tech support...

my pooter.....is pooched....

other programs like AIM.....won't open...

shared library error...

and then i download a new version.
the installer also won't open....same reason..

Hello Dj Nasty Nolan,

Please mail us directly and include the required informations - see:
http://www.ableton.com/pages/support_contact

best,
Christian
[email protected]

so we shall see..

apparently there was a bug in the user program..