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Live PA Article by Mr.Henke Himself
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:00 pm
by cosmosuave
Informative read.... Not sure if this has been posted here...
http://www.textura.org/reviews/henke_li ... rmance.htm
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:09 pm
by synnack
Very cool. Thanks for (re)posting. I get this all the time in my day job... "Oh you're in a band! cool, what instrument do you play?" Um...
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:17 am
by rbro
Cool article. Doesn't really bode well for the future of "complex" electronic music performance though.......
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:04 am
by smutek
Great read. Thanks for posting it here.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:08 am
by synnack
rbro wrote:Cool article. Doesn't really bode well for the future of "complex" electronic music performance though.......
Well. It will take some time.
People do not go to movies and get bored because the actors are not acting out for them "live" in real-time.
They accept that the nature of film is too complex to do live. They enjoy it as pre-recorded and edited theater. With that said there is still some value in watching it with other people in a specific public setting.
The same can happen with electronic music.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:12 am
by rbro
tempus3r wrote:rbro wrote:Cool article. Doesn't really bode well for the future of "complex" electronic music performance though.......
Well. It will take some time.
People do not go to movies and get bored because the actors are not acting out for them "live" in real-time.
They accept that the nature of film is too complex to do live. They enjoy it as pre-recorded and edited theater. With that said there is still some value in watching it with other people in a specific public setting.
The same can happen with electronic music.
It's an interesting discussion. People go see live theater and film for different experiences. I suppose there's some value to just experiencing something with others in a public setting, regardless of the "performance". People go to sports bars and watch TV just to be with others with a common interest in a public setting. But beyond just the "group experience", a "traditional" live music performance, offers a visual correlation between the sound and the performer as Robert points out.
Pete Townshend doing windmills on his guitar while power chords come booming out of the stacks provides the audience with an arguably more satisfying audio-visual connection than watching someone twiddle knobs and stare at a computer screen.
Certainly there is value in watching the performance of electronic music (even without other people), but I think Robert's article raises some interesting points about technological advances and the problems/challenges they pose to performing this kind of music in front of an audience.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:09 am
by lunabass
It is interesting how keeping it simple seems to go down better in a live set with the crowd.
The highlight of our set on saturday night was an unrehearsed 5 minute jam with our bass and sax players going off to a 4/4 drum and percussion loop...I ended up filtering the drums twice during the whole thing and spent the whole time dancing.
All of our more intricately layered stuff (extra synths, bleeps, loops, pads etc) where I'm having to do a shitload to keep the song on track didn't go down as well...
Actually perhaps thats my fault!
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:38 am
by nebulae
thanks for the post, bri, this is a good read late at night when I'm philosophizin'
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:02 am
by deva
rbro wrote:tempus3r wrote:rbro wrote:Cool article. Doesn't really bode well for the future of "complex" electronic music performance though.......
Well. It will take some time.
People do not go to movies and get bored because the actors are not acting out for them "live" in real-time.
They accept that the nature of film is too complex to do live. They enjoy it as pre-recorded and edited theater. With that said there is still some value in watching it with other people in a specific public setting.
The same can happen with electronic music.
It's an interesting discussion. People go see live theater and film for different experiences. I suppose there's some value to just experiencing something with others in a public setting, regardless of the "performance". People go to sports bars and watch TV just to be with others with a common interest in a public setting. But beyond just the "group experience", a "traditional" live music performance, offers a visual correlation between the sound and the performer as Robert points out.
People go to sports bars and watch TV, but the performance is still live. What is cool about a live performance is that you may see something magical. If it is baseball, you may see a pitcher pitch a perfect game. If it is a musical performance, you may see a musician just click and play more beautifully than ever. With the live performance, there is always the possibility of the extraordinary happening and witnessing it.
I don't care so much if someone is pushing buttons and twisting knobs, if it is live, they may still make a special creative moment happen.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:08 am
by nebulae
speaking of a "magical" and "beautiful" performance, did anyone else see the horrible opening act by Britney tonight?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:10 am
by sweetjesus
nobody seems to care if its coming from a laptop or not...
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:15 am
by nebulae
"That's right, bitches, I'm fuckin' BT, and I'm checkin' my fuckin' email."
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:22 am
by sweetjesus
nebulae wrote:
"That's right, bitches, I'm fuckin' BT, and I'm checkin' my fuckin' email."
im burglarizing turds
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:23 am
by smartass303
VERY informative read.
Some thinks i need to think about later on...
Shall i Dub?
Shall i build Tracks from scratch on stage?
Shall i get drunk w my friends grab some cheapo samplers and a mic?
nice one,
303
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:33 am
by evoid
very interesting read, thanks!
it seems that one thing that might help us in this moment of music performance history, it's the gesture / expression / sound connection. i find myself enjoying much more live performances in the moments where i can define a set of limits for my gestual expression, and then spontaneosly play the sound with all the emotion i want (or not) beeing applied to the gesture and the sound. This situations happen in the middle of a mix of procedures: i don't use timeline, so i go from scene to scene or to areas of the music, and my attencion goes from the feel of the sequence, to the shaping of the fx, into the realtime synth action. in all of this actions, i try to connect most i can with the gesture thing... of one cannot do this very naturally with a trackpad and a keyboard.. so i tend to avoid those I/O