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Multiple MIDI Controls, one Parameter
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:44 am
by williamm
Hi,
Sorry if this has been awnsered recently (looked around the forums a bit and RTFM). I'm trying to map multiple MIDI controllers to one Parameter, but whenever I try to assign one to the Parameter the previous Midi CC gets erased. Is there any way I can have 2+ controlling one parameter?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:01 am
by 966sf
I haven't really found a way to this on purpose. but when i use a MIDI Controller through USB that has native support like the Novation ReMOTE SL and then another controller not natively supported but mapped like the Faderfox LC2. I can control the same parameter such as the mute groups. I suppose if you have the controllers both sending the same CC on the same channel then you can have multiple controllers manipulating that one parameter. But it's weird because i think when i checked out what the Novation was sending (which won't show up in the MIDI mapping browser). I think it was sending different messages.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:16 am
by williamm
hi 966,
that makes sense, thanks for the input/idea.
would still like to know if its possible to set different CC to one parameter. would be nice to be able to consolidate everything to say a bitstream 3x, and be able to tweak a constant VST while switching through different channels to bring other pieces in
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:19 pm
by friend_kami
what i would like is to be able to map two CC´s to the same knob/button, for finetuning.
ie, you have a 0 to 127 macro knob mapped to cc8 (currently a filter knob for an instrument), which then ofcourse goes from complteley boring to extra filtered (obviously), but then i want to be able to fine tune that current setting with cc7, so that it goes +-5% of the current value (for example).
anyone know is this is possible in any way, or do i need thirdparty software for this (like max/msp or pd?
been bugging me for quite some time now.
not trying to steal your thread here, just continuing on the topic i guess.
going to try the multiple controller option, but im pretty sure it wont work, check back in just a few.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:22 am
by williamm
its cool kami. this is actually one thing i would be interested in, two CCs to the same knob/button. this would allow me to control one VST from multiple different "pages" of CC on a bitstream.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:59 am
by friend_kami
yeah, id like that too, mainly for scaling.
also id like the ability to select whether a button (in racks then, beat repeat modes for example), should cycle thorugh all the modes of just mode a to b.
so far i have to group it, macro the thing i want, then map the macroed knob to the knob i wanna use for it, and scale it down from 0-127 to say.. 0-75 to avoid gate mode at all.
not sure if it can be scaled with midi mapping, because i havent tried, been making some mashup racks. so i just want the knobs on the master rack, hook them up to my controller and play.
then i have to take that road, anyone know a simpler way of doing that? i dont want the gate mode dammit :p
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:23 am
by longjohns
my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's
so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.
I think that is possible (?)
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:02 am
by friend_kami
longjohns wrote:my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's
so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.
I think that is possible (?)
you know, i feel quite stupid realising that would most likely work, and that i havent even considered that option.
hah me.
then again, who wants a workaround?
i say they include this is Live 7 as a feature instead.
thank you.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:06 am
by Michael Hatsis
friend_kami wrote:
yeah, id like that too, mainly for scaling.
also id like the ability to select whether a button (in racks then, beat repeat modes for example), should cycle thorugh all the modes of just mode a to b.
so far i have to group it, macro the thing i want, then map the macroed knob to the knob i wanna use for it, and scale it down from 0-127 to say.. 0-75 to avoid gate mode at all.
not sure if it can be scaled with midi mapping, because i havent tried, been making some mashup racks. so i just want the knobs on the master rack, hook them up to my controller and play.
then i have to take that road, anyone know a simpler way of doing that? i dont want the gate mode dammit :p
friend_kami wrote:longjohns wrote:my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's
so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.
I think that is possible (?)
you know, i feel quite stupid realising that would most likely work, and that i havent even considered that option.
hah me.
then again, who wants a workaround?
i say they include this is Live 7 as a feature instead.
thank you.
Why wait around. this is very easy to do in MaxMSP or PD. honestly you could put together a patch to accomplish this in a day or two.