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Ableton + Reason Modulator Losing Setting on Stop: Any Help?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:46 am
by snodger12
I am using Reason v3 as a rewire slave to Ableton Live v6. I have a Combinator instrument set up in Reason and am setting the modulator to about 70 to get the right sound (set via my midi keyboard); the instrument is then being played from a midi-clip in Live. The problem I am having is that if I Play the clip, then Stop it and Play it again I lose the modulator effect on the intrument. I have set up a clip envelope against the clip in Live that sets the correct modulator value (this is just a straight line envelope), but this doesn't seem to fix the problem. After pressing Stop and then Play again I either have to nudge the modulator wheel on my midi keyboard or "nudge" the envelope line in the clip envelope and suddenly the modulator kicks in again at the right setting.

Note that when doing this the "back to arrangement" button does not illuminate so I am assuming that I am/should be making a permanent change to the clip..?

Note that the modulator wheel as displayed in Reason does not reset to zero on Stop - it looks as though it is still at the correct setting even though the effect is not heard until I nudge something. The clip envelope remains at the correct setting as well.

Does anyone know how Live can/should be configured so that the modulator remains on and at the right setting all of the time?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:30 pm
by snodger12
I have found a workaround, although it's based in Reason - basically I've added a Subtractor component and routed the LFO through to my Combinator modulation input and used that to create some modulation. This doesn't create the nice raspy overtones you get with the mod-wheel, however, but I suspect I can do that in Reason with a bit more thinking.

However, this isn't the Reason forum (I know!) and I suspect the initial problem still lies in Live not passing the modulation wheel value through to Reason on pressing Play (or sending a reset on pressing Stop??) so I'd still welcome any suggestions from people more familiar with Live than myself. One thought is that perhaps I could send a midi-program code through at the start of the clip, but I can't see if Live can do this from the manuals. Is this an option?