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Question about Simpler

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:26 pm
by JoeSchubert
I just started monkeying around with Simpler. So far so good, but I have an issue.
When I trigger the sample, it plays faster or slower depending on the note transmitted with it. What is the setting I use when I want to use simply the orignal sample tempo and key yet none of the transpose steps seem to match?
I'm recording the sample into an audio track then dragging it into Simpler, then working the sample with mappings assigned to my pad kontrol. It's a hoot working with some Trentemoller or PvD, but like I said, sometimes the samples aren't matching properly. This may be a simple fix, but the Simpler section of the manual didn't seem to touch on this.
Any help would rock...


Domo

Re: Question about Simpler

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:14 pm
by joewes
JoeSchubert wrote:What is the setting I use when I want to use simply the orignal sample tempo and key
Just play middle C.

Middle C

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:23 pm
by JoeSchubert
Seems to do the trick on the others, but on one particular song, middle c is a hair slow even though properly warped. and c# is a hair too fast...is this just a glitch?

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:58 pm
by hoffman2k
Once you warped your track. You need to (re-)render it for use in Simpler.
Simpler doesn't read warpmarkers nor does it stretch audio.

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:01 pm
by Rogue Scrunt
dont put your clip in simpler,

you can map a clip in session view to your midi keyboard

thanks y'all!

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:20 am
by JoeSchubert
i'm about to test out everything that you told me...even not putting it in the sampler at all, but i'm not gonna lie, i like what sampler can do...but i'll see what i can do treating the clip like a simple sample outside of Simpler...thanks again...

cheers.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:12 pm
by nfms
Rogue Scrunt wrote:dont put your clip in simpler,

you can map a clip in session view to your midi keyboard
lol.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:53 pm
by Rogue Scrunt
nfms wrote:
Rogue Scrunt wrote:dont put your clip in simpler,

you can map a clip in session view to your midi keyboard
lol.
what is so funny, this technique works well?

no offense

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:20 am
by JoeSchubert
i'm sure that technique works fine and all, but i prefer to use simpler.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:23 am
by Rogue Scrunt
I hope pigeon flies by and shits on your face

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:30 am
by sparklepuff
Rogue Scrunt wrote:I hope pigeon flies by and shits on your face
Now THAT made me LOL! :lol:

I completely agree with you, unless Senior Shubert is leaving something out. If all you want to do is play back a sample at the same pitch as it began, and you want to warp it, just play the clip from a keyboard, don't be fussin' around dropping the thing into simpler.

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:04 am
by Machinate
BUT, if one absolutely wants to, one can:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12122

- but this is generally more to do granular synthesis and such. If you want to just change the pitch of something without changing the tempo, then just do it as clips. Nothing gained from putting it inside a simpler - hence why it isn't described in the manual all that much ;-)