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using 2 midi controllers simultaneously

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:49 pm
by thepowerofequality
im having an issue, or a couple.

Im trying to use 2 midi controllers:

1-Trigger Finger
2-M Audio Axiom 49

When you assign a midi control to a button in ableton, it automatically labels it as a note. example: C1, D#2, etc

And when I have the 2 controllers hooked up, I cant assign things sometimes because the notes end up being the same on the different controllers.

also, another example, is using The Axiom 49 to control a midi keyboard sound inside ableton, and using the trigger finger to control scences/clips.

thats one of the problems, another one is: i will assing a knob to a control such as tranpose of a specific clip, but the transpose control on my device will control whichever clip is currently selected inside ableton. is there a way where the knob can stay as just that clips transposition(for example)?

thanks for any help you can give me.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:54 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
The key things to read up on here:

a. Midi channels
b. How to program your controllers.

Once you get the hang of these things - your problems will be solved.

-M

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:57 pm
by Tone Deft
cool name.

nope and nope, but you know what's up.

with external control of Live, Live doesn't differentiate between midi ports (a port is where a device is connected). usually people get around this with using different midi channels on each device. I happen to like this feature because I have several devices that control, say, track volume and they all update each other.

good observation about clip view. assign something in clip view for track 1 and that assignment is there for all clips everywhere. that's just how it is.


the first issue might be addressable but IMO I'd rather have redundant controls than more specific control. use different midi channels, there's 16 of them after all.

on the second issue I see changing that as getting sticky, you'd end up with many many assignments, on the other hand you can have a few controls setup then just select the clip and use that control. I see it simpler the way it is now.

but these do frustrate people, valid points, but you can't please everyone all the time.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:44 pm
by octatone
solution: use a custom painted qwerty keyboard with a guitar strap to launch clips. or program your controller to send cc values instead of notes. or yeah, midi channels. you can even program which controller live listens for midi on in the IO pane on the arrange and session strip.

there's like five hundred different solutions to your problem.