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Hi,

Have read the previous comparisons, where there are lots of mixed opinions, tho the last comment seems to have been written a few months ago.

Could people who have used both please advise me as to the benefits of each?

The screen looks a lot better on the akai, tho I am not sure if this offers any real benefit? Also, it generally looks a lot more solidly built.

I am however swayed towards the padkontrol at the moment due to the ability to control roll with the x-y pad - is this actually any good?

Also, I have heard of problems with some of the korg units where the pads are overly sensitive (although I like them to be very sensitive) and can play other random pads when another pad is hit hard - has this been resolved?

Lastly, does the padkontrol offer any option to adjust pad sensitivity?

Thanks

J

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Lastly, does the padkontrol offer any option to adjust pad sensitivity?

yes you can.


i love it.

What about the trigger finger?

Jaan wrote:What about the trigger finger?

I have considered the trigger finger, but from what I have read it seems to be an inferior device to the other 2...

Think I'm gonna get the korg - any other opinions pls?

If you just want the best damned drum trigger thing out there, get the PadKontrol.

Machinate wrote:If you just want the best damned drum trigger thing out there, get the PadKontrol.

tried the trigger finger in guitar center. didn't like the sensativity of it. I've also read that some peoples fingers start hurting after tapping on it throughout a studio session.

the padkontrol is super soft and super sensative. and I like the knobs as well as you can flip them really fast for some reason if you know what I mean. though they do look like they'll break off like a dead leaf in the fall.

although I will add, the xy pad on the padkontrol sucks donkey balls if you ask me. just my opinion it just seems like it's not sensative enough and it feels cheap to touch. but as far as tapping on the pads I have no complaints.

Johnisfaster wrote:although I will add, the xy pad on the padkontrol sucks donkey balls if you ask me. just my opinion it just seems like it's not sensative enough and it feels cheap to touch. but as far as tapping on the pads I have no complaints.

TBH, that is the only thing attracting me more to the korg than the akai - if the x-y pad sucks then i would probably rather go for the mpd as it looks more robust (and is from akai, who make industry standard drum pads). There are complaints about the pad sensitivity on the mpd, but these seem to mostly be from people who did not know you could change the sensitivity.

Have you used an mpd as well? If so, what is it that make you prefer the korg?

Wanna buy within the next week, but have no way of demo'ing either so am trying to form a comparison before I order (atm i just can't choose which).

Any help appreciated...

if the x-y pad sucks then

bullshit.

rupture wrote:

Jaan wrote:What about the trigger finger?

I have considered the trigger finger, but from what I have read it seems to be an inferior device to the other 2...

Think I'm gonna get the korg - any other opinions pls?

I, though notorius M audio basher, must admit if I had to choose TF is much better. My personal opinion get all 3 of them, but Korg is definitely the weakest, specially if you want to play, , I mean those who actually play any real drums or percussion, BTW. I dont think touch pad is bad, actually its functionality big plus for Korg over others.

rikhyray wrote:

rupture wrote:

Jaan wrote:What about the trigger finger?

I have considered the trigger finger, but from what I have read it seems to be an inferior device to the other 2...

Think I'm gonna get the korg - any other opinions pls?

I, though notorius M audio basher, must admit if I had to choose TF is much better. My personal opinion get all 3 of them, but Korg is definitely the weakest, specially if you want to play, , I mean those who actually play any real drums or percussion, BTW. I dont think touch pad is bad, actually its functionality big plus for Korg over others.

I do play a djembe / bongo, which (altho technique will be completely different) is why i want pads to be sensitive to a nice light touch. (and cant afford handsonic)

Why do you rate the triggerfinger? Absolutely everyone else seems to hate it and tbh the m-audio stuff is normally more like a toy.

Also, could you elaborate a little - why is the korg the weakest? Need to know so i can make my judgements...

rupture wrote:and is from akai, who make industry standard drum pads).

That doesn't make them the best ones

rupture wrote: Have you used an mpd as well? If so, what is it that make you prefer the korg?

I hope you don't mind me chiming in here, but I have tested all of the available drum pad products (not side-by-side, mind you)and for my money the PAdKontrol simply is the best, but if you wanted to get the PadKontrol *just* for the x/y pad I would pass, to be honest. It's not worth it.

I tried both a while back and remember that on the MPD24 the pads are softer at the edges, which means you can push them into the chassis more at the edges than at the center. Unfortunately I cannot remember how the Kord pads behaved on the edges, but one thing is for sure, the Korg was very sensible. You could play with a mere touch of your fingertip on the Korg while the MPD needed a bit more of bashing. On the other hand you surely can set sensitivity on the MPD and I prefer real LCD screens to pure number displays. I did not decide which to buy yet, because I first had to put my money into a Novation 37SL (LCD display) and FC-300 (LCD display) to go with my Kore (LCD display). I am leaning towards the Korg a bit, because I liked the touchy pads and it seems to offer some cool features.

Machinate wrote:

rupture wrote:and is from akai, who make industry standard drum pads).

That doesn't make them the best ones

rupture wrote: Have you used an mpd as well? If so, what is it that make you prefer the korg?

I hope you don't mind me chiming in here, but I have tested all of the available drum pad products (not side-by-side, mind you)and for my money the PAdKontrol simply is the best, but if you wanted to get the PadKontrol *just* for the x/y pad I would pass, to be honest. It's not worth it.

Not sure what you mean by *just*. Obviously, my main requirement is to have good pads, which are nice to play and can be adjusted to be highly sensitive when necessary.

As far as I can figure out, both the MPD and the Korg offer this, so the factor that is swaying me towards the Korg atm is the idea of being able to control roll in both speed and velocity, with just one finger (whilst playing with the other hand). If this feature is crap then something inside me just wants to trust the akai more, although i guess this is based on little more than reputation and the fact that the korg looks a bit like a toy (I am trying to dispell this notion in my mind...)

What was it that made the korg better? I am nearly ready to buy one, I just don;t like the screen and am wary of the stories where hitting one pad hard triggers others that it shouldn't.

thanks

J