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What a right royal P.I.T.A.

Don't feel you have to read all this it's just theraputic for me to get it off my chest.

"Copying 15gazilion and umtpy nine files 15.4Gb - Estimated time to completion 2 hours, no make that 3 hours,,, no make that 10 hours, no back down to 8 now up to 1 day or more now down to 9 again oh done it)"

OK lets have a look "Where the f*$%ing Bol%^$%£ing Cu%$ing hell are they then, you STUPID F65K witted ARSE"

"calm down noel it's only a computer no point getting raddled with it"

Ok Try again, try copying less at one time.

Sorry but it's been a rough couple of days, having to juggle about 120 GB of samples and sound libraries from various backup disks and get them back where I want them. It's taking bloody ages and it's doing my head in!

Now that VISTA bastard has just "moved" all my vst dll's into a black hole somewhere and because I moved rather than copying them they've gone for good. So looks like i'll be downloading til the early hours of the morning.

And I've got to rebuild most of my live sets because the BCR2000 drivers for Vista use a different name for the external midi in. and some of the vsts that I've downloaded aren't compatible with the old versions I had before.

And I have to get yet another unlock code for my Ivory Piano because I inadvertantly unlocked it with the bluetooth enabled which changes the machine ID. and I've got to copy it's 40GB llibrary to another disk because my external firewire adaptor won't fit in the new machine and the FW410 does NOT like sharing with a busy disk drive.

And I had a hell of a fight getting sampletank to run because It has to run as administrator. (but they were very good and gave me 6 new unlock codes!)

I'm sure there's something else to rant about but I've forgotten what it was.

Perhaps I should pop open a bottle of strong plonk and leave it til the morning. yeah that seems like the best idea.

Take my advice, don't do it unless you're forced to (unfortunately I am forced to because my old PC is broken beyond repair)

Moving/copying large chunks of data is always a scary prospect.

I would recommend using a Unix command-line tool called rsync
It will completely and securely copy data from one place to another and check to ensure there is no corruption.

I use rsync exclusively for all of my backup needs.

Assuming you don't have any Linux installed, you could download and burn a Linux bootable CD to run it from. My personal choice is Ubuntu.

Edit: For those running OS X on a Mac, the rsync utility is already available to you, since OS X is a Unix-based operating system.

vista is painfully slow for copying files.

theres some stuff to be worked out

MS has released a patch for Vista to address the copying time issue. Do a search on their site and you should find it. Ill dig up the number if you have no joy.

As for the rest of your woes, this is where you should cultivate a friendly family nerd that can do things like data transfer for you, if its causing you that much stress! they often work just for dinner or a sextet of fermented grain juice!

the copying time issue is HotFix 931770 for Vista. you can download it from MS.

adventurepants_ wrote:the copying time issue is HotFix 931770 for Vista. you can download it from MS.

Thanks! I'll get onto that,

I made he mistake of trying to copy an entire disk full in one operation - 4 hours later my PC ground to a halt and then blue screened.

F**k knows what happend to my VSTs I did a "Move" from one disk to another and it deemed to work OK but when I looked at the destination folder they wern't there! but they had gone from the original disk!

spira wrote:Moving/copying large chunks of data is always a scary prospect.

I would recommend using a Unix command-line tool called rsync
It will completely and securely copy data from one place to another and check to ensure there is no corruption.

I use rsync exclusively for all of my backup needs.

Assuming you don't have any Linux installed, you could download and burn a Linux bootable CD to run it from. My personal choice is Ubuntu.

Edit: For those running OS X on a Mac, the rsync utility is already available to you, since OS X is a Unix-based operating system.

Good idea - beats having symantec crap on my system - first thing I did was uninstall all the symantec trial ware, urghhh.

thanks chaps.

Rule of thumb before you do any data transfer is to make a complete backup first. hard drives are so cheap these days, and it buys a lot of peace of mind.

your VSTs are probably somewhere on your new vista pc. Have you tried doing a search?

adventurepants_ wrote:Rule of thumb before you do any data transfer is to make a complete backup first. hard drives are so cheap these days, and it buys a lot of peace of mind.

your VSTs are probably somewhere on your new vista pc. Have you tried doing a search?

Fortunately I still have the drive out of my old laptop, but I have to get a SATA drive enclosure for it. Couldn't find one at the local ComputerWorld and mail order is a bit dodgy at the moment due to the postal strikes.

Yes I tried a search but they are nowhere to be found.

Anyway I think it's a good thing in some ways, It means I'll get rid of the crud and only install the stuff I actually use. Plus I have the latest versions of everything now. But it was a frustrating experience.

The main problems I have now are to do with configuration changes eg.

BCR2000 MIDI input has a different name in vista so all the live sets where I set tracks to input from the BCR need adjusting.

Cardbus express instead of PCMCIA so now I only have one firewire interface. this is why I had to shift all the data off of the USB backup drive in the first place so that I could copy the Ivory Piano sound banks from my firewire drive on to it.

and Vista itself is proving to be something of a frustration, it seems to need about 10 minutes to settle down before I can get decent performance from it.

You know that Acronis has free trial that always serves the purpose for me, since I use it only once whenever I have new HD or notebook. In case you dont
http://www.acronis.com/download/