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I got an Oxygen 61 today because I wanted the octaves. Packaged along with the keyboard is a copy of Live Lite 4. That's right. 4. I don't know what the shelf life is on keyboards but does this mean the thing has been sitting on the shelf for like 3 years?

Live Lite 4 is still bundled with everything. It's like the AOL CD of music hardware purchases.

dude! it's the best. you can totally elastic loop audio!
but they really should fix the midi timing.
they totally rushed that feature.

I just got an Emu 1212m card set today and its in there too it seems.

On a more upsetting note, the keyboard was used when I supposedly bought a new one. And I'm talking used to the point that there is dust/dirt on the keys and even what appears to be a ring from where somebody placed a glass. I guess somebody returned it and they just sealed it and put it back on the shelf. Guess what great music store chain I got it from.

I dont know anything about the US Consumer rights, but here in the UK if something is sold as new it has to be new. Sorry to hear that, sounds like someones not done their job properly along the line.

Yeah, I just went and exchanged it for a factory sealed one. They probably got distracted when the last person returned it and some goof just put it back in stock.

You guys realise it's a free upgrade to Live Lite 6 from Live Lite 4 right?

EDIT: https://www.ableton.com/login?page=shop/upgrades

was it guitarcenter?

Librado wrote:was it guitarcenter?

Isn't it scary how easy that was to determine.

dru wrote:You guys realise it's a free upgrade to Live Lite 6 from Live Lite 4 right?

EDIT: https://www.ableton.com/login?page=shop/upgrades

you realise you can trade in a piece of shit for a shiney piece of shit right?

beats me wrote:

Librado wrote:was it guitarcenter?

Isn't it scary how easy that was to determine.

fuck guitarcenter. i remember a time when you went into a music shop and were greeted by fellow musicians. now you go into guitar center and have to fight off the fucking vultures. recently i was looking at buying a used padKontrol from the Baton Rouge location, and the fucker has the gall to tell me "oh, we can't sell you a used one when we have new ones in stock." ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THEIR FUCKING SALE. customer service is a thing of the past. now i go to guitar center to get their equipment dirty before i buy it online from musicians friend. HAHAHA fuckers.

thumperjack wrote:

beats me wrote:

Librado wrote:was it guitarcenter?

Isn't it scary how easy that was to determine.

fuck guitarcenter. i remember a time when you went into a music shop and were greeted by fellow musicians. now you go into guitar center and have to fight off the fucking vultures. recently i was looking at buying a used padKontrol from the Baton Rouge location, and the fucker has the gall to tell me "oh, we can't sell you a used one when we have new ones in stock." ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THEIR FUCKING SALE. customer service is a thing of the past. now i go to guitar center to get their equipment dirty before i buy it online from musicians friend. HAHAHA fuckers.

We have a similar problem here with a couple of chains of shops/dealers. Theres a particular mail order firm that will always say they have something in stock just to get your purchase, another is a music shop - mostly guitars - whereby its packed out with customers and you can never get served, not because the staff are busy but because they employ kids who're too busy talking about their social life.

Needless to say they dont get my money.

thumperjack wrote:

beats me wrote:

Librado wrote:was it guitarcenter?

Isn't it scary how easy that was to determine.

fuck guitarcenter. i remember a time when you went into a music shop and were greeted by fellow musicians. now you go into guitar center and have to fight off the fucking vultures. recently i was looking at buying a used padKontrol from the Baton Rouge location, and the fucker has the gall to tell me "oh, we can't sell you a used one when we have new ones in stock." ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THEIR FUCKING SALE. customer service is a thing of the past. now i go to guitar center to get their equipment dirty before i buy it online from musicians friend. HAHAHA fuckers.

Hate to tell you this but Guitar Center and Musicians Friend are related. So I usually go with zzounds.com, audiomidi.com, or novamusik.com instead. Sometimes I don't wan to wait for something to ship and Guitar Center is only like 2 minutes away from me and most other music stores in the area don't have a large selection of computer based music equipment or software. I find that really strange when music stores only stock the standard old school music equipment of guitar, bass, and drums. I guess they like to keep their profit to a minimum.

Johnisfaster wrote:

dru wrote:You guys realise it's a free upgrade to Live Lite 6 from Live Lite 4 right?

EDIT: https://www.ableton.com/login?page=shop/upgrades

you realise you can trade in a piece of shit for a shiney piece of shit right?

Haha, i forgot to mention the cheap upgrade price from Live Lite 6 to Live 6 Full. :p

Good point dru.

Right now you can go from Lite 4 -> Live 6 Full for USD 269.00 -> Live 7 Download (when released) for FREE!

That's almost like buying Live 7 for half-off.

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