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Not sure how much I agree with the "readers of computer music"...in particular, I think Sylenth1 needs to easily be in the top 5, and Sytrus should have been in the top 10.

I do think a couple of things are pretty funny...first, the way Urs talks is just hilarious...the epitomy of avant garde artsy fartsy Berlin dude. Love it! And of course the cheesy "See you later, oscillators!" Gawd, how campy!

nebulae wrote:http://www.computermusic.co.uk/

Glad to see albino made the top 5. I know a lot of people here don't necessarily like it, but when I sold my virus c (dumb move) and needed a temporary filler until virus powercore was Intel, Albino has been pretty good to me.

I don't regret selling my virus C, but I do miss the sounds. However, I've never felt Albino ever came close...in fact, all the Rob Pappen synths have always sounded thin and digital to my ears. Z3ta and Sylenth both fit nicely as Virus replacements, so I'm covered nicely. Also, there are some fabulous patches for both - check out www.vstsoundbanks.com

I will say I had done it all over again zebra 2 would have been my choice. I don't know how I have not been exposed much to zebra, but the more I encounter it, the more I am impressed, really impressed.

Z3ta seems quite cool. I came into albino out of ignorance, I assumed a rob p synth would be the way to go considering his history. I think I may agree that it is not in the same class as zebra, and z3ta. One more thing to buy. ANd I don't think it was made in CHINA so I can consume with a clear conscience.......

agreed, zebra 2 is fraking great, and if I didn't already have operator, sylenth, z3ta, sytrus, and zero vector, I would get it in a heartbeat...as it stands, I haven't even tapped 10% of each of the ones I have because I'm still a preset bitch...

nebulae wrote:agreed, zebra 2 is fraking great, and if I didn't already have operator, sylenth, z3ta, sytrus, and zero vector, I would get it in a heartbeat...as it stands, I haven't even tapped 10% of each of the ones I have because I'm still a preset bitch...

I use presets like balding man with a comb-over...no wait I am bald (but I shaved my shit) As lond as our preset is no a flat out 4 bar james brown/queen sample (like in the day) who gives a flying fuck. I make music, not masterbate with ideas that never manifest becuase I so busy tweaking, er....tweaking the sounds. There are those who are genuine sound scape artists and those who are more musicians....
Having been a guitar player most of my life, I am more on the musician side.

next preset! why did you sell your virus c? I sold mine as I am increasingly letting go of hardware.

you gotto love public convos between two people...while everyone sits back to watch. tell me your deep dark secrets (for everyone to enjoy)...

I let go of Virus C because of the same reason...my studio gets smaller and smaller. A few years ago, around 2002, I dumped all my hardware (Roland XP80, Alesis drum machines, JP8000) and started using softsynths only. After a bunch of songs, I was hooked on the conveniece of full patch recall, sample accuracy. Then I missed my hardware and bought a used JP8080 and the Virus C. Suddenly my songs sounded better, warmer, grittier. My deduction was that softsynths still weren't ready for prime time. Then last year, the pendulum swung back. I hated time-correcting everything, and midi slop was annoying. And with excellent Covert Operator packs and other great presets, I started to see that I didn't quite need the hardware...just needed only the best softsynths as perfectly good replacements. For me and my shrinking studio space, it was a really good move. I bought a C2D e6600 and a tiny midi controller, and went all soft again. No regrets.

Nice video feedback Urs setup!
I imagine there is a correltaion between synths that CM has given away, and synths that made the top 5 ?

yeah, that's an astute observation

ethios4 wrote:Nice video feedback Urs setup!
I imagine there is a correltaion between synths that CM has given away, and synths that made the top 5 ?

it seems like it walways works like that. I almost never trust these things at first.

nebulae wrote:Not sure how much I agree with the "readers of computer music"...in particular, I think Sylenth1 needs to easily be in the top 5, and Sytrus should have been in the top 10.

I do think a couple of things are pretty funny...first, the way Urs talks is just hilarious...the epitomy of avant garde artsy fartsy Berlin dude. Love it! And of course the cheesy "See you later, oscillators!" Gawd, how campy!

let him talk funny, he is a pure genius under developers.

agreed, brutha, he is pure genius indeed...just wondering why he's not talking with wine in one hand, cheese in the other...

nebulae wrote:agreed, brutha, he is pure genius indeed...just wondering why he's not talking with wine in one hand, cheese in the other...

LOL!

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