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uc33e

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 4:56 am
by technova
hi just got a cheap uc33e
can anyone tell me how they are using the keypads
for scene control and launch buttons etc
cant seem to figure this one out

thanx

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:51 am
by krikor
you have to program the keypad so that it is map to midi notes... The howTo for this is explain in the UC33 manual...

read the manual

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:32 pm
by technova
why i never thought of that........
i meant more like anyone else using a uc33 can you say how they
have got theirs set up thanks in advance

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:59 pm
by leisuremuffin
Uhhhhhm, ok.

yeah, i play a lot of gigs with live, and since people always complain that is less interesting than seeing a band play, i set my controller up to simulate stage banter:

i assign the pads to launch clips with little bits of speech like "hey, how y'all doin tonight? havin a good time yet? don't forget to tip your bartender." or for some crouds "hey shut the f*ck up, i'm trying to entertain you" or maybe "stop stroking your beard you ironic williamsburg hipster a$$hole!" Y'know, the kind of stuff that really endears the crowd to you. The last one works really well for me, since i am a beard stroking williamsburg hipster.

pretty creative way to use the uc33 pads. But you probably already thought of that, didn't you, you super-genius you.

or maybe you would like to assign them to something like the current scene up, down, and launch buttons. or something else. i don't really know what you would want to do with em.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 3:24 am
by forge
leisuremuffin wrote:Uhhhhhm, ok.

yeah, i play a lot of gigs with live, and since people always complain that is less interesting than seeing a band play, i set my controller up to simulate stage banter:

i assign the pads to launch clips with little bits of speech like "hey, how y'all doin tonight? havin a good time yet? don't forget to tip your bartender." or for some crouds "hey shut the f*ck up, i'm trying to entertain you" or maybe "stop stroking your beard you ironic williamsburg hipster a$$hole!" Y'know, the kind of stuff that really endears the crowd to you. The last one works really well for me, since i am a beard stroking williamsburg hipster.

pretty creative way to use the uc33 pads. But you probably already thought of that, didn't you, you super-genius you.

or maybe you would like to assign them to something like the current scene up, down, and launch buttons. or something else. i don't really know what you would want to do with em.
you beard stoking williamsburg hipster, you! :wink:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:07 pm
by Guest
one thing i liked about this forum was that you could asked a simple question without some comedy asshole wasting your time
with sarcastic bullshit what is the point of your reply?
do u really have so much free time on your hands?, why not
waste it elsewhere

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:16 pm
by technova
come on guys, lets get back to the forum

i just wanted to hear from anyone who actually is usinga uc33e.

maybe i should be more specific
i have 2 midi controllers connected to a g4 laptop
an oxygen 8 set to midi channel 2
an uc-33e set to midi channel 1
one of the many problems i am having is that they seem to be transmiting similar midi controls and overiding each other
i am sure its something v simple i have done or not done but i cant see it
thanx

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:17 am
by leisuremuffin
ok, now we're getting somewhere.

if your evolution is sending on one, and your uc33 on 2, there should be no problem as live can tell the difference between two of the same exact kind of messages (cc or note) if they are on different channels.

you might run into problems if you are trying to use both of them via usb.

prolly best to use one as the midi interface and run the midi out of the other into it.

how exactly do you have your stuff set up?


BTW, yes, i am a jerk. and yes, i am sarcastic. but i have never given anyone an attitude who didn't bring one of their own first. go back and read the top of this thread.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:00 pm
by technova
ahh yes i am using them both via usb
( i was wondering though how much juice is running from my PB as
there are now 3 external devices being powered by it)
i'll try swapping one to midi and see if that fixes it thanks






as for my original post, well i cant really see whats so wrong with it LM

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:37 am
by leisuremuffin
cool, hope that solves the problem.


I think i just misunderstood what you were saying. It was my impression that you were telling the person who first answered your post that they're answer was stupid. I'm sorry for jumping on you like that.

-lm

Should be no problem...

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:06 pm
by gaspode
It should be no problem to have them both set to different midi channels. Check to make sure that all of your knobs/controllers are set to the same channel as well. I know on some controllers, you could have your keybed set to channel 1, and your knobs to channel 2, or some other way.

Essentially it sounds like you've got overlapping cc#'s or notes, I'd check both of your manuals to see how to verify what each knob is set to...

Worst case... you could set the oxygen to cc#'s 1-8 for your knobs, and set the uc33e to cc#'s 9-41 or something similar... then they could share the same midi channel.

Use Enigma

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:25 pm
by rictheobscene
If you have a UC-33e, then you can program it using Enigma. It is a free download from Evolution's website.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:08 pm
by skiptracer
you have to change the launch mode from the default in order to do it right.

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:56 am
by forge
I've been finding I'm using mine to nowhere near it's potential - usually it just sits there until I want to start recording automation at which point I just hit the midi button in Live then assign the knobs - ususally to parameters of an effect (like feedback, dry/wet of delay etc) in some kind of coherent way that looks easily like it does on the screen so I can get a grip on it then that's it

I'm sure I could do alot more with it but I just find I never need to, it's much quicker and more useful learning keyboard shortcuts and using the UC33 for knob twiddling

In retrospect I think I may have been better with one of those more DJ ones with the crossfader

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:05 pm
by hoffman2k
I dont know if anybody brought this up yet, but uc33 users can upgrade their unit to a uc33e.
Just a mainboard change that costs 25£ and a screwdriver.
The advantage to this is that you can now use "control mute" and program it with enigma instead of manually.

Enigma should give you any easy overview on your presets.
You can have as much different set-up as you like wich you can transfer through usb and store and edit on the computer.
This should help with conflicting messages.

H