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I saw the mp3 thread and thought of the following idea.

Why doesn't ableton design its own sound format with a high compression or something in that direction. They could design they're own converters as well. Maybe then they can get rid of the ughe wav files problem.

wave files are not a problem, crappy sounding mp3s are a problem get over it

Spydear

i am fed up buying new drives to be able to store all my wave files

Thats why i made this thread. back at yah.

Compression is a good idea, but I'd absolutely prefer a "well-known" lossless compression format which is also readable by other programs than ableton, like the "ape" (monkey audio) format or something similar. Propellerhead's rex/rx2 format does lossless compression also, but compression is proprietary there.
OT: BTW, I want MIDI+Sysex recording!

I would guess that apple loop compatibility is getting higher priority at Abletons HQ.

You can hear a difference with most compression types. Reason gets accused of sounding "thin" an awful lot, but if you use uncompressed samples in it, it sounds a LOT better. Big hardrives are cheap and quality sound has to be the best way to go.

Amen, get a big hard drive or two and get over it people. MP3's don't sound that great, and they definitely don't sound that great over a PA live, and there's many other things for ABleton to focus on other than mp3s. Last I checked, the abletons and most Live users write and create their own music, so mp3's are not even on the map for us. (now I'm ducking and covering for the assualt of the mp3 djs)

Ryan

You can duck but you can't hide!

Anyone know if this new Apple lossless is Entropy encoding or what? How can it be lossless and still an MP4?

I agree with the Monkeys audio idea, as it's lossless and usually at least halves the size of wavs. Plus it's well supported with winamp plugs etc

vivaplex: MP4 is a container format (like Quicktime, from which it was derived, or AVI, WAV, etc.) It has nothing to do with the actual compression method used for the audio/video tracks contained within; MP4 simply provides a way to store one or more tracks of compressed data in a file, describe how they're compressed, and provide aux. information such as seek tables.

fliquid wrote:I saw the mp3 thread and thought of the following idea.

Why doesn't ableton design its own sound format with a high compression or something in that direction. They could design they're own converters as well. Maybe then they can get rid of the ughe wav files problem.

Sounds like a good idea.