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Hi!

Im a new user of Live 3. Im configuring a show using a laptop with Live running and keyboards. I use some 2 or 4-bar loops starting on the 4th beat and I can find a way to make them play in the right place together with other loops starting on the 1st beat. I guess there´s a way to do that in Live 3. So, it would be great if somebody can help me on that.

Also, I need some tips for arranging a whole show of 12-13 themes (more that one and a half hour of music). Is better to have all the songs together into a Live set? Or is better to have every song separate in a different Live set? In that case, should I have to open all the songs before starting the show and select it on stage?

An extra question about Live 3: is there a way to combine Arrangement tracks with scenes in the Session view? How can I stop the Arrangement without stopping clips in the Session view and viceversa? I still dont get right the concept for Arrangement and Session, in what case should I use each oone of them?

My setup: PBTi G4/768MB RAM, OS X 10.2.8, Emagic EMI 6/2m, Logic Pro 6.4.2, some VST and Rewire (Arkaos VJ).

Thanks in advance,

alvarez

for your first point, i think you can manage it using the legato function together with the good clip quantization; that will enable you to launch a sample not necessarily on the first beat.
fpr your second point, there are plenty of threads about whether it's better to have all your tracks in the same live set or not. but if you choose not, you won't be able to open all the project before starting, as Live enables only one project open at a time.
for your last point, the manual is pretty clear about interactions between arrangement and session view. but you can have both running at the same time and jump from one to the other.

thanks alot!

I dont mean to play clips with legato, which I know already. I mean to have clips starting on the 4th beat of a 4/4 time signature and others starting on the 1st beat and playing them, lets say, in the same scene. That´s for me not so obvious to be made in Live 3. Sorry about my ignorance. The point about the Arrangement and Session is not so clear. I move and copy clips from one to another and it´s not easy to understand why they play sometimes simultaneously and sometimes they are exclusive. Why sometimes it´s not possible to stop the Arrangement playing and play only Session and so on. It is not so clear for me. Sorry again. Now I know better why Arrangement and why Session, but not why both simultaneously and what is better for each one?

It´s clear now that Live doesn´t allow to open various sets simultaneously, so it´s not possible now to have separate sets and change them "live" quickly (a major disadvantage for me). I guess all the people that really play a whole show need then to have a big Live set with all the program. No other way.

alvarez

we use live entirely in session view for live sets. tracks are organised in blocks seperated by horizontal spaces and colour coded. there are 16 channels and the same type of sound always appears on the same channel.

If you don't want to attempt to trigger your offset sample on the 4th beat because it means you have to remember to trigger with a 1/4 note quantise after the 3rd beat, then you have a couple of options

1) leave it on 'bar quantise' and set the start offset so that the sample starts 1 beat late. You won't hear it start on the up beat, but it will start on the bar in the appropriate rhythm.

2) if the upbeat is integral, then use clip envelope amplitude to mute the first 3 beats and start it using bar quantise one bar early with the same sample offset.

Mil gracias!!!! Thanks!!!

It works very well with the sample offset. It is really a very useful feature to offset any clip while others stay on the beat.

cheers

alvarez