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RIAA: CD Ripping For Personal Use Now 'Unauthorized'

Tech and P2P-friendly websites are aflame with news that the RIAA has filed a brief in an Arizona U.S. District Court against JEFFREY and PAMELA HOWELL which claims that ripping CDs to mp3s is a violation of copyright laws and the fair use doctrine. In other words, ripping tunes from a CD to an iPod are "unauthorized."

On page 15 of its brief, the RIAA asserts: "It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies ... Virtually all of the sound recordings ... are in the 'mp3' format for his and his wife's use ... Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies..."

According to SWITCHED.COM, that contradicts the RIAA's own arguments made in the 2005 MGM Vs. GROCKSTER case. At that time, A RIAA rep stated that making digital copies of music for personal use was protected.

kabuki wrote:RIAA: CD Ripping For Personal Use Now 'Unauthorized'

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According to SWITCHED.COM, that contradicts the RIAA's own arguments made in the 2005 MGM Vs. GROCKSTER case. At that time, A RIAA rep stated that making digital copies of music for personal use was protected.

Dunno anything current about US law, as it's laughable pish that advocates torture, but iirc the US Copyright Act Of 1976, No Electronic Theft Act Of 1997, US Digital Millenium Copyright Act Of 1998 & the Intellectual Property Protection And Courts Amendments Act Of 2004 all say that it's okay.

Hence can someone please hunt down the RIAA executives, waterboard them and up it to Youtube

so absurd its just hilarious

kabuki wrote:RIAA: CD Ripping For Personal Use Now 'Unauthorized'

... Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies..."

How did the riaa find out these people had files on a shared folder in the first place? Was accessible through the internet?

I'm no lover of RIAA, and I love fair use laws... but from what you wrote, I'm not seeing how "ripping mp3s to an iPOD" is necessarily the same as "storing mp3s on a shared folder".

Now, if that "shared folder" is just the shared folder on your home PC, then OMG the RIAA has attained new levels of fuckery.

RIAA also filed a brief that snipping from websites information about RIAA briefs is unauthorised.

Fuck the RIAA !

the stupid fucktards jus keep on hammering those nails into their own coffin

every time they do insanely stupid things like this it makes me feel happier and happier about the future of the music industry because the ONLY alternative for musicians with half a brain is to function completely outside of the RIAAs version of the music industry - and this is happening more and more

this makes the independent music industry stronger because less musicians are even getting involved in that corporate industry

this is actually good news for people like us who make music that isnt corporate crap

the music industry of the future will be one where people see "the big 4" and the RIAA as just some old fogeys who tried to milk old music past it's sell by date

I mean how can it possibly be a good business tactic to sue all your customers?

they know they are dying so they are trying to get as much cash as they can on the way down

they know they are dying

are you sure?

forge wrote:the stupid fucktards jus keep on hammering those nails into their own coffin
every time they do insanely stupid things like this it makes me feel happier and happier about the future of the music industry because the ONLY alternative for musicians with half a brain is to function completely outside of the RIAAs version of the music industry - and this is happening more and more
this makes the independent music industry stronger because less musicians are even getting involved in that corporate industry
this is actually good news for people like us who make music that isnt corporate crap
the music industry of the future will be one where people see "the big 4" and the RIAA as just some old fogeys who tried to milk old music past it's sell by date

Preach it, brother!!!

kabuki wrote:Plaintiffs' recordings into the compressed mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies..."

what kind of shared folder? p2p? i don't see the problem when music shared to p2p is not anymore considered as authorized copies..

but if it's only to his ipod folder it's another situation

forge wrote:the stupid fucktards jus keep on hammering those nails into their own coffin

every time they do insanely stupid things like this it makes me feel happier and happier about the future of the music industry because the ONLY alternative for musicians with half a brain is to function completely outside of the RIAAs version of the music industry - and this is happening more and more

this makes the independent music industry stronger because less musicians are even getting involved in that corporate industry

this is actually good news for people like us who make music that isnt corporate crap

the music industry of the future will be one where people see "the big 4" and the RIAA as just some old fogeys who tried to milk old music past it's sell by date

Couldn't say it any better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't need to be a member?
in germany this is called gema and it is the the same mafia shit.

FOR WHAT DO I NEED TO BE A MEMBER... just to sell my own stuff?

i never understood,someone know?

Dominik wrote:i don't need to be a member?
in germany this is called gema and it is the the same mafia shit.

FOR WHAT DO I NEED TO BE A MEMBER... just to sell my own stuff?

i never understood,someone know?

the point is these days you can just do it all you self through th internet - the more people that do it that way the stronger independence there is inthe industry and you wont even need to get involved with shit like that

the only reason artists needed organisations like that in the past was to make sure you got your royalties but when you're selling it all yourself and keeping the profits then it doesnt matter does it?

dm_hawk wrote:

forge wrote:the stupid fucktards jus keep on hammering those nails into their own coffin
every time they do insanely stupid things like this it makes me feel happier and happier about the future of the music industry because the ONLY alternative for musicians with half a brain is to function completely outside of the RIAAs version of the music industry - and this is happening more and more
this makes the independent music industry stronger because less musicians are even getting involved in that corporate industry
this is actually good news for people like us who make music that isnt corporate crap
the music industry of the future will be one where people see "the big 4" and the RIAA as just some old fogeys who tried to milk old music past it's sell by date

Preach it, brother!!!

Yeah, I couldn't have said it better... Buya ka sha!