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this seems odd to me that when going up through the Drum racks with the cursor keys it goes in rows in 3 rather than 4, as it would make sense to go in 4 as we could have 8 banks of 16 sounds..

also why can we not assign a midi controller to the selector as i could control everything from my Trigger Finger and not be mousing around to select beats.

yes I have noticed this too. And if you're using an 8 pad controller, because of the 12 jump, one row is always non selectable!!!

It's annoying...

Its done that way, so the notes are always in the same place.
C2 is where C1 was....
Wouldn't be possible when shifting 4 rows.

hoffman2k wrote:Its done that way, so the notes are always in the same place.
C2 is where C1 was....
Wouldn't be possible when shifting 4 rows.

sure, but why is that important when you're playing with beat/perc sounds? surely the best way would be to shift 4 rows at a time so that each bank of 16 is distinct... or at least make it a preference that could be changed..

Also why no midi control? This would be ideal for fast switching between beats in a live situation if you had a midi controller controlling where on the grid of clips you were focused..

Here's a tip.

Hold down the Command ⌘ key while scrolling the drum rack and you'll move 1 row at a time. I'm sure there is a similar shortcut key on a PC as well.

Edit: Look in the manual page 230, section 16.6.1, "Pad View".

nobbystylus wrote:

hoffman2k wrote:Its done that way, so the notes are always in the same place.
C2 is where C1 was....
Wouldn't be possible when shifting 4 rows.

sure, but why is that important when you're playing with beat/perc sounds? surely the best way would be to shift 4 rows at a time so that each bank of 16 is distinct... or at least make it a preference that could be changed..

Also why no midi control? This would be ideal for fast switching between beats in a live situation if you had a midi controller controlling where on the grid of clips you were focused..

if you set up a user script for your drumpad it shouldn't matter where the notes are should it?

i think i read somewhere in the 7 beta forum that they were 'discussing' including the midi control thing - it seems ridiculous not to have it though, and why not have a little button there that switches it so you can scroll row by row OR screen by screen (ie 4 rows...)

I am in favor of a preference for 3 row, 4 row, or single row movement..

and mappable scroller

longjohns wrote:I am in favor of a preference for 3 row, 4 row, or single row movement..

and mappable scroller

Word!

Yes i spotted the command key one row thing, but this still means lotsa tap tap tapping to get up to the next 'set' of 16 sounds..

give us a preference and midi and it would make it so useful for users of PK or TFs or MPDs..