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External Instrument II
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:48 am
by sporkles
EDIT: Here's an updated version of my suggested improvement to the
External Instrument, allowing you to control rewired instruments with Live's rack
knobs. I think the image is self-explanatory, but the gist of it is: you select a
Reason parameter from the drop-down on the new version of the External
Instrument, and map that parameter to a macro by using the dummy
"parameter" button. What this effectively would do, is telling the macro knob
what CC to pass on to the Reason device.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:45 am
by Pasha
I totally agree with you but I'd like to add something to make it even more useful. I have asked during L7 beta program to let the Ext Instrument have Program Change capability like it should be in every modern DAW.
Why do I need a clip to change a patch on my external MIDI hardware?
As ice on the cake I also would like to have the presets of the external device appear as a drop down list that behind the scenes sends the correct Program Change. This can be easily done by creating an helper application outside live that reads a text file with Patch description + program change that is in turn attached to the external instrument.
By doing this any MIDI Hardware will be treated as it should be.
- Best
- Pasha
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:57 am
by Lord Kahn
This already works? Just midi assign the macro knob and it'll be echoed back out when you change the macro.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:36 pm
by orgul
very good suggestion!
I'd add sysex commands to to the midi parameters. but this is just wishfull thinking...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:09 pm
by LDT
I'd add sysex commands to to the midi parameters.
+1
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:54 pm
by Ten Square
+1000!
Should be very useful to control and automate Reason's devices parameters!
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:09 am
by violetpow1
very good idea +1
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:50 pm
by Debrecini
+1000 FOR THIS ONE
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:12 am
by sporkles
Bump, and update!
I realised that there must be an even easier way of doing this:
When you rewire to Reason and pick the "MIDI control" dropdown in the
envelopes box, you actually get all the Reason parameter names instead of
the CC numbers, so it really ought to be possible to simply point a macro knob
to a parameter name. I mean if you use another, dedicated knob on your
controller to send a specific CC to the rewired app., you're doing the exact thing
that I want to do. The only difference is that I want to be able to do this via a
macro knob instead.
Pretty please, Ableton!
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:03 pm
by amoeba
i think the macro > CC idea is great, or just any simple way to map/learn stuff to CCs (the macros might not show up if you are just using a plain external instrument)
Re: External Instrument II
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:49 pm
by jlgrimes
sporkles wrote:
I've suggested this before, and I partially got my wish in the External
Instrument, and this is the next step, really. It's an Instrument Rack / External
Instrument hybrid, which lets you send MIDI CCs from the macro knobs. 'Map
mode' lets you set the desired CC number, the arrow lets you show/hide the
macro knobs (hiding them collapses the device to its current form), and that's
really all there is to it. (Maybe also add a button that lets you add more macro
controls) This would let you use the same controller preset for your
rewire/hardware devices as the one you use for Live's devices. No fuss, no
messing about with clip envelopes unless you really want to. It would also
be cool if you, in map mode, would get the same list of CC parameters you
get when opening the 'midi control' dropdown in the clip envelope box, so
that the macro knob could be automagically renamed to fit the parameter.
Could you dig it? If so - help me bump this one, so that we can be sure that
the Abes read it
Also add the ability to create instrument definitions for the hardware
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:49 am
by forge
+1
I'd like something like this that could be added to a group track to then control multiple MIDI tracks within the group track
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:10 pm
by sporkles
Bump and update, yet again...
Feel free to help me bumping this thread, if you're on board!
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:09 am
by guerillabass
forge wrote:+1
I'd like something like this that could be added to a group track to then control multiple MIDI tracks within the group track
+2
... and nice explanation with the photoshopping sporkles
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:19 am
by Keddy
+1 on this. This is one of the things that I feel is really holding me back... (realizes he's just making excuses, but still thinks this is a great idea.)
Instrument rack macros AND combinators!?!?!?!??!?! Awesomeness.