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Greetings all.
I am starting this thread, to get input and help from all other LIVE experts out there.

Here is my dilemma. All over the forums on the subject of DJ'ing with LIVE, I see help and examples of how to put a drum track, and kick track, put some drum loops somewhere and so on...

But as a DJ, whne I am performing, I play with scenes, and each track clips of a scene contains more then a timy drum loop, or a kick loop. By the time I arrive at a DJ gig, most of my tracks are already, done, mastered and all that.

On my DJ set, I usually disect a complete track into different portions, for effects. This is where I could use some help.

This is what I want to do.

While a track is playing (say, a complete song), I want to drop and effect like "around the head panning", or a drum roll, on a particular section of the track.

The problem I've seen is that if I send the signal to a return track, I never get the desired result. But I get a good effect, if the racks are on the track itself, as an insert.

But since I am doing this live, I do not know when I want to have that effect. So, I do not want to load a track with racks, sitting idle.

What I'd like to do, is change a scene, and on the new scene, put the clip on different track, that has the output sent to another track. This new track can have a dummy clip. So, say. the main clip is on track 1. When I change scene, the same clip is now playing on track 2. Track 2 has "Audio to" on Track 3. Track 3 has a dummy clip, with envelope automation.

I want to have the legato mode on the clip on Track 1, and on track 2 as I change scene.

LEGATO MODE is not working, when I change scene, and the same clip is on different tracks.

Can any one help please ?

Cheers,

Pinaki

I think you are over-complicating things.
If you want to use dummy clips, you dont need 3 tracks, only two.
Put a dummy clip with the effect wet on the scenes you want the effect on, and put a dummy clip with the effect dry when you don't want it.
First track always routed to the dummy track.

Or just use the effects as inserts and key-map the on/off button to keys on your keyboard or buttons on your midi controller.

Greetings, DJGrrovy
Thank you for your reply and help.

But I do have a problem. If I am playing a dry dummy clip on track 2, which is getting input from Track 1. then it somehow colors the dry track, and increased the overall volume. So, it starts clipping. I do not know if this is a LIVE bug, but this is what happens to me.

djgroovy wrote:I think you are over-complicating things.
If you want to use dummy clips, you dont need 3 tracks, only two.
Put a dummy clip with the effect wet on the scenes you want the effect on, and put a dummy clip with the effect dry when you don't want it.
First track always routed to the dummy track.

Or just use the effects as inserts and key-map the on/off button to keys on your keyboard or buttons on your midi controller.

What effect are you using?
Are you sure you've drawn an envelope for 100% dry?

pghatak wrote:Greetings, DJGrrovy
Thank you for your reply and help.

But I do have a problem. If I am playing a dry dummy clip on track 2, which is getting input from Track 1. then it somehow colors the dry track, and increased the overall volume. So, it starts clipping. I do not know if this is a LIVE bug, but this is what happens to me.

If track 1 has output to master and track 2 gets it's input from track 1, then both tracks are routing audio to the master, so the volume level is doubled.

Set audio out on track one to none and audio in on track 2 to track 1 (or the other way round). Set track 2 to monitor and have so the audio is always passing through it whether there are effects running or not. Turn effects off by using a 100% dry dummy clip on track 2.

Hi andydes,

Thanks mate. I'd give that a try. I appreciate the help.

Cheers,

andydes wrote:

pghatak wrote:Greetings, DJGrrovy
Thank you for your reply and help.

But I do have a problem. If I am playing a dry dummy clip on track 2, which is getting input from Track 1. then it somehow colors the dry track, and increased the overall volume. So, it starts clipping. I do not know if this is a LIVE bug, but this is what happens to me.

If track 1 has output to master and track 2 gets it's input from track 1, then both tracks are routing audio to the master, so the volume level is doubled.

Set audio out on track one to none and audio in on track 2 to track 1 (or the other way round). Set track 2 to monitor and have so the audio is always passing through it whether there are effects running or not. Turn effects off by using a 100% dry dummy clip on track 2.