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I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?

there's so much more than dieselboy in drum'n'bass

lol I know.. just in general though. There are a few artists I dig, but I usually stay far away from the DnB rooms at raves.

interesting point, i somtimes write music in genres i dont paticularly like, Garage or heavy metal or sometimes folk, and often i have much more fun doing it as I give it no respect, unfortunately through writing in those genres from time to time i have also grown to love and respect them, I keep having to find genres i hate to have fun

"there's so much more than dieselboy in drum'n'bass"

I have to underline this, no disrespect to dieselboy but alot of his music has very little intresting drumming. its just stright boom, cha.

I think if u try explore a little bit deeper u might find somthing u like, (like everything) theres alot more to it then what u see on the surface.

I like a group called shapeshifter (http://www.shapeshifter.co.nz/) they have a live drummer and hes quite a champ. give it a go and tell us what u think...

Jungle beats are amazingly fun to play on the drumkit, no shame in that my friend..

Mix those drum-n-bass drumming styles over trance beats and you will have some wickidly dance-able music going on.

lis102trants wrote:I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?

Pretty much the same here - trance/electro house etc is my thing and Im also a drummer. Most of my drumming is breaks, d&b or tribal/jungle type stuff as well.

Its basically that the rhythms in those genres are good - the music that gets plasterred over them however generally sux. Actually I quite like some of the early pioneering D&B.

Also as someone said some of those beats mixed with regular 4/4 dance beats work really well.

yeah, why not just bring some of those elements that you like into styles you do enjoy- therefore creating a new style totally your own.....unless you want to limit yourself to exploring one genre and then i just dont what to tell you!

i don't like that newer drum n bass, too. i prefer "golden age" dnb from the mid nineties, which is slower and more breaky. Stuff like old photek, source direct, paradox, good looking,… check out some of them and have a listen.

You don't hate the "style" - like you said, you love that kind of drumming, and the general feel of it all - you just hate the current crop of bad music out there. No harm in that - that is part of the reason why you HAVE to perform it, to change things.

I love live electronic music, but hate the current crop of "I am really just a dj, you know"-"Live" acts out there... that is the reason why I feel obligated to change things up and make a "market" for myself, really.

If I were a real drummer I would probably fall asleep playing straight house or trance, not a lot of variations going on there. I'm one of those non drummers that owns vdrums for whatever reason and I still fall asleep playing to house tracks. It's fun for about 10 minutes.

lis102trants wrote:I've got an odd question I can't seem to answer for myself. I love trance and electronic music, and I'm primarily a drummer. After watching KJ Sawka and Anders Meinhardt for the first time (on youtube), I fell in love with jungle and drum n' bass drumming, but I hate the genre. I can't stand more than 3 minutes of Dieselboy or anything similar to it. Is this strange? Does anyone else have a similar story?

funny, i'm reallly not into d&b, but the first live in this genre i saw was with a real drummer. really inspiring. double kick, 4 snares and 10 others custom builds percus instruments. All the kit was on microphonesd and passed trough some fxs and a mixer on the front end twicked by the drummer himself.

http://www.humansampler.de/

if i get paid to dj music i hate. I can't complain, it pays the bills. In order to eat sometimes you have to swallow your pride.

Very good points all around. Especially being a drummer and finding the jungle beats fun to play, it makes sense with all of the syncopation and variety. And substaticnz, thanks for the tip on shapeshifter. I'm diggin' the sound. I like the kind of DnB with trebly sounds, piano riffs, absynthy pads and all that good stuff, without too much of the groaning, drowning basslines.