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groove/shuffle question
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:43 pm
by ellisclavane
I posted i thread yesturday asking about swing. i got some good answers and now i know how to use it. Thank You.
I am just wondering if there is anything on ableton live 7 that replicates the shuffle turn-knob on Reason 4's Regroove Mixer. i would apreciate your advice because i cant rewire the regrove mixer to ableton because reason only works rewire slave. Thank you for your time
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:03 pm
by nebulae
The only adjustable groove for Live is the global groove setting next to the BPM at the top.
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:46 pm
by morerecords
yes press command U while the notes are selected, and quantize them straight. Then, quantize again using triplets value, but set at a lower quantize amount, maybe 12% at 16th trips...
This is how variable shuiffle works for all sequencers including Reason 4, although for some reason they don't quite advertise this functionaltiy at ableton quite as much...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:52 pm
by Brian Ffar
There is sort of a brute force method to implementing a "groove template" in Ableton Live if anyone's interested.
Take a loop of a track whose groove you would like to emulate, and do the following:
1. Enable the clip to warp, and set your warp markers on each hit on the 16ths. If the track actually has a groove, you'll notice that each hit is off a bit from the straight 16th grid when you initially import it, so make sure to move each warp marker to its respective hit (ie, un-groove the loop with your warp markers).
2. Once you're loop is warped, copy it into the arrange window.
3. Once in the arrange window, you'll notice that there is a new option that appears in the clip info pane. It's a little button that says "slave".
4. Click on the slave button, and you'll notice that it changes to "master". Also note that once this clip is set to master tempo, your tempo value displayed in the box in the upper left portion of the arrange window is grayed out, and has an automation envelope associated with it. When you play this loop now, you'll see your tempo going sort of haywire, but that's just live adjusting the tempo so that your stuff plays to your new groove.
5. Duplicate this "master tempo" loop along the duration of your track, and voila, you've basically just set up your groove template by automating master tempo changes to create your "groove".
6. Make sure to mute, or turn off this track so that the audio doesn't play throughout the song - it's just meant to hold the groove.
Now, when you bring in audio clips, they should be warped to straight 16ths (and if they're not, then you'll have to warp them). Once they're warped, go ahead, and A/B your stuff with the tempo loop on and off, and see if they match.
Hope this helps (and makes sense).
B