BCR2000 and mackie mode preset video.

flipotto · Post by **flipotto** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:17 am

Hey all,
Many wonder why you would want to use this instead of the just mapping it yourself.
1. You just load the two presets into bcr2000, following directions and you are done. If you don't like it, you have not wasted much time remapping Live!
2. If you move or delete a track, this keeps on working/ your controls still make sene, no hair pulling cursing because you have to remap stuff.
3. 2 Foot switches that I have mapped to clip play/rec(if armed) and undo, for hands free recording!
4. Jumpless faders for countless numbers of tracks 1-8, 9-16, etc... with the Bank > and bank < buttons.
5. Jumpless vpots for countless numbers of pans, sends, device controls...
6. Mutes/solo/arm/vselects
7. The JOG WHEEL.
8. zoom scrub, clip play, scene play...

I made a YouTube video of the bcr2000 in action with Live.
I see one spelling error in it already, sorry, it is my first vid.
Also the quality is not so good, however, it does demonstrate the BCR2000 with Ableton Live using the mackie presets. Yes, the music sucks with it, i just thru 16 random clips from the live library in there...
Go take a look then get to work!
* Also - I made the video with a different version than the one in the archive, sorry. The only change is that i moved the vpots down to the second row of knobs and the faders down to the third row. I think that is the only difference... Ah ... well this is just to get your feet wet anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nml8REYXXwQ

Here is my page with my slightly edited presets and manual.
http://shoshin.110mb.com/genmce/bcr2000/

cheers.

Decalc · Post by **Decalc** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:28 pm

Cool.. Thanks for this.. I have two BCR2000 can configure it to work both same time.. and have more channels?

flipotto · Post by **flipotto** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:20 pm

You should be able to do this.
Try this.
1 bcr as a mackie control universal
2nd bcr as a mackie control XT.

let me know if it works...

Decalc · Post by **Decalc** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 pm

I'll test it latter today.. i'm still building the new studio.. we are now attaching the HDTV on the wall so.. hehe.. maybe tomorrow!

I hope this makie thing works here like i saw on the video.. saves me time mapping a template and it works better (i hope).

xlr8r · Post by **xlr8r** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:22 pm

i've managed to make it works and modified some of the control's parameters, but when i turn off and on the bcr2000 it loses the preset i've sended to it.
i followed the instructions in the pdf manual (send the mce .syx, store02.syc, ableton.syx and store3.syx)

ps. i used bcfredit for sending the data to the bcr2000

flipotto · Post by **flipotto** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:30 pm

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/files/

That is a great link for bcr files, including sysex loader.
Which should emliminate the need to send the store.syx file.
I have not tried it yet.
Also there is the BCMan100.zip, which looks like a great editor for the bcr/bcf.

yoyek · Post by **yoyek** » Sat May 17, 2008 4:55 pm

I doesn't work with Live 7 (or I missed something)

Warminstrel · Post by **Warminstrel** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:02 pm

yoyek wrote:I doesn't work with Live 7 (or I missed something)

does live list the bcr2k as 'BCR2000' or 'Audio Device' ?

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:14 pm

here it doesn't work with LIVE 6.0.10
I always have stuck and random notes playing

and I followed all advices in the instructions,
how to set up the BCR2k
and LIVE
and huskervu shows the right stuff,

and I can't edit any vst-plugin

Mehalic · Post by **Mehalic** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:12 pm

Very cool indeed - thanks for this, I had it working after some playing around with my BCR2000! One quick question/suggestion - is there any way to have the buttons switch lights when you select a channel? For example, when I have channel 1 highlight, the first button is lit up, when I press channel 2's button, channel 1's button remains on along with channel 2's button (so it's an extra push to ensure everything is in order for visual feedback)!

Or, maybe I could have a stab at doing it, just don't know where to start. I also saw an interesting approach from rbmonosylabik on another thread:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 383#664383

seems he has updated his template - sounds pretty damn kool (quote "Now it has a MIDI track routed to the BCR with clips where I automate the CCs mapped to the 16 buttons. What they do is turn on the LEDs in the BCR, showing which buttons have clips assigned to them. I just launch the corresponding visual feedback clip along with the track with the same button.")

A mix of both would be genius! I gotta start learning how to do this myself, anyone know of any good tutorials or places to get started??

Thanks again.

Mehalic · Post by **Mehalic** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:35 pm

Never mind, I got the lights working right on the BCR, just had to be sure to switch on synch mode in Live's preferences and also need to set the output of huskervu (set output to BCR).

This is a nice template - thanks again!

flipotto · Post by **flipotto** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:01 am

Revised - mackie preset for bcr2000...

Scaled back to 1 preset (with more functions than the 2 presets from before.)

Added functions by using knobs as buttons -via sysex. (thanks to Royce's documentation and Mark's editor )

Think of them as rotary switches. That do 1 thing when turned clockwise and a different thing when turned counter clockwise. bank <+>

cursor < + >, and up down.

View clip-fx/bottom, browser/arrange-session

previous marker, next marker.

So the bottom row from the image has 6 rotary switches.

Moved faders to top row, Bar leds indicating levels.

Resolution changed, if you turn knob slow = slow increments, fast = large value changes. In fact, can go whole range with quick twist.

Vpots moved to 3rd row from bottom. Similar resolution adjustments. Quick twist = whole range, slow = small changes in value.

Ok - it is ready.
Get it here - http://shoshin.110mb.com/genmce/bcr2000/index.htm

Now are there any other functions (mackie functions) that this needs?
Since there are still 6 or 8 user assignable knobs that could be rotary switches...
Any thoughts out there? Hmmm...
I suppose one of those knobs could be undo/redo?
undo to the left and redo to the right?

flipotto · Post by **flipotto** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:25 pm

Newer 4.1

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:44 am

nice set up. might have to go with this if/when i get a bcr