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dell

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:47 pm
by mja
So im thinking about buying a dell,is there anybody on here running a dell with ableton??? what specification do you think i should i go for ???? Ram,processor etc....

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:13 pm
by Grappadura
I guess a lot of ram is always useful, while the processor will nowadays always be fast enough (correct me if I´m wrong). I run a P dual core 1.6 ghz, and I have "only" 1 GB Ram, and I can open about 10 tracks with different plugins (no large chains included), and the computer is at only 20%. Totally enough for me.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:16 pm
by Grappadura
One more thing: A new dell probably comes with Vista. After running it a while I uninstalled Vista. XP is more compatible with all kinds of programs. Wavelab 5 and my soundcard-driver wouldn´t run on Vista, as well as another driver for the MS-20 controller.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:27 pm
by funkdefino
Dell is a good choice if you buy the right specs...

~Fastest processor you can afford
~2gb ram (or more)
~7200rpm hard drive
~Fair to midland graphics card

~and yes... XP.

You can usually get XP through Dell if you call them personally.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:35 pm
by mja
Thanks lads,ya i was on the dell site and you can still get xp with alot of their processors..the dell i am looking at is a Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8200 processor (2.66GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache) memory 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [4x1024] 250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:50 pm
by Damon_Chambers
get the biggest and baddest you can get. thats always how it is with computers.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:26 am
by funkdefino
mja wrote:Thanks lads,ya i was on the dell site and you can still get xp with alot of their processors..the dell i am looking at is a Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8200 processor (2.66GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache) memory 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [4x1024] 250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst
Way more than I use... sounds like a slammin' system.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:33 am
by Yhtomit
Folks, Windows XP does not recognize more than 2GB of RAM. So you might wanna get a computer with 2GB instead

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:47 am
by Tone Deft
Yhtomit wrote:Folks, Windows XP does not recognize more than 2GB of RAM. So you might wanna get a computer with 2GB instead
you can get 2Gb for $100, ignore the RAM, spend money on the rest, buy your own RAM.

IMO. buying a computer can be tricky. just my $0.02.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:01 am
by mja
Yhtomit wrote:Folks, Windows XP does not recognize more than 2GB of RAM. So you might wanna get a computer with 2GB instead

I dont know about that man, :roll: i was on the dell web site there earlier and it gave the 4gig ram as an option with windows xp

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:43 am
by Ajbbklyn
mja wrote:
Yhtomit wrote:Folks, Windows XP does not recognize more than 2GB of RAM. So you might wanna get a computer with 2GB instead

I dont know about that man, :roll: i was on the dell web site there earlier and it gave the 4gig ram as an option with windows xp
Windows XP can be modified through an edit of the boot.ini file:

http://www.gehrytechnologies.com/catia/ ... memory.htm

You can make 3GB available for running programs and the other 1GB is used mostly for the kernel memory.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:01 am
by Sibanger
I'd also go for a second hard drive. Always good.
Check out this link-
http://www.pcmus.com/hardrive.htm

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:13 am
by leedsquietman
I own currently 3 Dell computers, and have owned 7 in total. 6 of them have been excellent, 1 was OK after a couple of fixes.

I run Live just fine on my 2 and a half year old Dell Inspiron 9100 laptop. I have 2 GB ram, it is fine for most of my needs.

My other Dells are a bit older and therefore I mostly use them for email, surfing and office suite stuff.

Dell are pretty good about XP. you can usually talk them into giving you XP instead of Vista, they are one of the only big box manufacturers who don't force Vista on you. In fact. they even released a couple of models with Linux.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:28 am
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Damon_Chambers wrote:get the biggest and baddest you can get. thats always how it is with computers.
If you have unlimited funding. Yeah.

There is a sweet spot between prestanda and cost. I agree with Grappadura - as long as you go with a non-budget processor, they're all good. 2.4 or 2.1 or even 1.83 is just nitpicking. You're much better of putting that extra money into RAM.

7200 rpm is of course faster. But at a cost of both heat, energy and money. I'd say get a 5400 internal and add an external for speed and added storage - if needed.

Don't know anything of Dells, though. I've heard both good and bad about them.

-M

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:59 pm
by leedsquietman
Get a 7200 rpm internal and a 7200 or 10000 rpm external with at least 300 GB. Works great for me. And I run a pentium 4 desktop processor in my computer, so yes, fair point about heat, but keep it well vented and you're looking at much better performance than a 5400 internal drive.

Especially if you don't have an external drive, you're looking at about 15-20 extra tracks more of performance.

If you're just looking at something for DJing with or just running a few basic audio tracks then 5400 is OK. Start whacking in virtual instruments and plugins and more tracks and it cracks under a lot less stress than 7200.