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Vestax VCI 100

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:21 am
by softserv
Does anyone use this as a midi controller for Live rather than with Tracktor Scratch or similar? I want quasi turntable function without Scratch and I like the jog wheels.

Thanks!
softserv

Re: Vestax VCI 100

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:10 am
by Nathan Ramella
softserv wrote:Does anyone use this as a midi controller for Live rather than with Tracktor Scratch or similar? I want quasi turntable function without Scratch and I like the jog wheels.

Thanks!
softserv
Avoid the Vestax VCI-100 at all costs.

It's got a nice crossfader but it's a pile of garbage. After being a Vestax fanboy for ages (4 mixers, 2 turntables) I got one with high hopes only to find out that Vestax doesn't know anything about digital hardware manufacturing and support.

I'm sending mine in in the next week to finally get it's firmware upgraded after a year of it not working right..

No thank you!

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:49 pm
by softserv
goood 2 know, thank you!

Any bright ideas about how I can get turntable-like functionality with ableton live?

thanks,
s

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:53 pm
by Nathan Ramella
softserv wrote:goood 2 know, thank you!

Any bright ideas about how I can get turntable-like functionality with ableton live?

thanks,
s
You're kidding right?

-n

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:14 pm
by softserv
No, dude, I'm not kidding. Why can't peeps just answer questions on this forum? I want to have a least a good set of jog wheels, which I realize will not give me scratch action, but I want to be able to manipulate songs and effects in that way. Any suggestions?

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:03 pm
by thelike5
softserv wrote:No, dude, I'm not kidding. Why can't peeps just answer questions on this forum? I want to have a least a good set of jog wheels, which I realize will not give me scratch action, but I want to be able to manipulate songs and effects in that way. Any suggestions?
By turntable functionality, do you mean scratching or simply mixing? I believe the initial trouble was the scratching delay people experienced. Mixing should be fine.


As far as I know, the VCI-100 now ships with the upgraded firmware that Nathan is getting. A properly functioning new firmware enabled VCI-100 with Traktor should get the job done. Just last week, I heard someone destroy a club using the VCI-100 exclusively (I think with Traktor). I was hammered and didn't ask if he had the new firmware enabled.

The VCi-100 will get the job done well. I heard it with my own ears.

Otherwise, I've heard good things about Serato Scratch and semi-good things about using Torq.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:23 pm
by hacktheplanet
You might check out the MS Pinky pluggo:
http://mspinky.com/WreckedSystem_Pluggo.html

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:03 pm
by h_double
I just got a VCI-100 a couple of weeks ago and so far I love the thing. I haven't gotten it set up in Live yet, but have been tooling around with it in Traktor and am very happy with the quality and performance of the hardware. The jog wheels feel better than I expected and the faders are really nice. All the units shipping now should have the new firmware and I haven't had any problems with delay on the jog wheels (scratching or otherwise).


EDIT: unfortunately, at least after brief experimentation, I'm unable to get the VCI-100 to work at all with Live; the MIDI learn won't respond to any of the VCI-100 controls, nor does Live's MIDI activity light show anything going on. The Vestax website says "LIVE 6: Testing. Firmware and control assignment files are being made." but who knows when that will happen.

Anyway if anybody has gotten this thing to work from within Live, I'd love to know how.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:35 pm
by evanb
what about the new vci-300 coming out looks promising with its only hardware dedicted version of serato itch

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:17 pm
by Hardtoe
Works fine for me - I like it a lot and I have had several (korg microkontrol, etc) midi controllers - I have found it hard to find use for the jogs as they send a rather "loose" signal for controlling things like a filter, but they are cool for triggering samples. I do really like the feel of things and I like the dj mixer paradigm as I have an easier time remembering what does what. I agree that tech support sucks though - I have emailed them about getting the firmware update and have NEVER heard back.....

Nathan - how did you get some action???

Cheers

Orion