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hello out there

I was wondering if someone might have some suggestions for a good device chain to achieve a sustained guitar sound (short of getting an e-bow) preferably just using Live's included fx

opia wrote:hello out there

I was wondering if someone might have some suggestions for a good device chain to achieve a sustained guitar sound (short of getting an e-bow) preferably just using Live's included fx

hell yes.

add delays. lots of delays. then some reverbs, with long decays. also, instead of an e-bow try finding an actual violin bow. resonator does cool stuff too here.

resonator before a reverb. um.... i dunno, just gotta experiment(try presets,twiddle knobs, press buttons etc.). freeze button on the reverb?

yea, when i recorded guitar i used a violin bow. so, i don't really know what an e-bow sounds like anyway.

you can make a sitar-thing out of a guitar, by placing strips of paper between the strings and the bridge area too. then process the result.

also, i think you can use compressors to sustain stuff too.

thanks

I got some help from a KVR member by the name of vieris last night too
he was kind enough to send me a preset saturater-compressor chain that sounds good and I can elaborate on with other plug-ins

I'll try a few of those as well.I could go for a nice overdriven yet smooth faraway sounding type thing as well

opia wrote:thanks

I got some help from a KVR member by the name of vieris last night too
he was kind enough to send me a preset saturater-compressor chain that sounds good and I can elaborate on with other plug-ins

I'll try a few of those as well.I could go for a nice overdriven yet smooth faraway sounding type thing as well

ya, i was about to say "compress, saturate, delay, verb, compress again" as a starting point.

For e-bow esque sounds, Absynth really takes the cake, it also handles physical modelling well, so those two techniques together makes a hell of a sustained guitar sound.

kraze wrote:For e-bow esque sounds, Absynth really takes the cake, it also handles physical modelling well, so those two techniques together makes a hell of a sustained guitar sound.

ya, that makes a lot of sense too. although i havent tried that sound before i do love absynth. honestly i use an ebow to get ebow sounds, but i have tried to do it with processing so as to remove the handheld device from the equation. in the end i've settled on a fernandes sustainer for my current guitar and yes i use the piezo pickups with it for awesome weirdness and no i didn't patent my design before moog announced their new guitars. doh.

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Technique is important, as is the guitar. Compression pedal for sustain. Delay for a more unnatural feel. (The Memory Man Deluxe is excellent for this--The Edge in U2.)
Good technique, a good guitar, good compression pedal, overdrive and a good amp with some real feedback should be good for sustain. I'd leave the computer and an E-Bow out of the equation.

for the old Fripp and Eno stuff, Robert Fripp had marks on the floor that corresponded to each note, by playing facing the cab and stepping back and forward he could be reasonably sure of the result. So, when he wanted to sustain a D he stepped to the correct position marked D.
He also used to play it mind-fuckingly loud.