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Multi-Channel MIDI software? Ableton not the answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:23 pm
by pajhonka
Hi,
I'm trying to create a Type 1 MIDI song with 16 MIDI tracks (each on a different channel) in Ableton and export it to my Roland keyboard's sequencer. Unfortunately, I have found that this is not possible with Ableton. Does anyone know of some free/inexpensive software for OSX that can export Multi-Channel MIDI clips? Thanks!!

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:49 pm
by Machinate
how about just real-time recording from Live into the Roland? That would work.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:52 pm
by pajhonka
Machinate wrote:how about just real-time recording from Live into the Roland? That would work.
Thanks for the response.
I thought about doing that. I was hoping to be able to import SMFs (that had been exported from my Juno) into the software.
This is what I'll do if I can't figure out a better back & forth workflow. Thanks again.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:41 pm
by Homebelly
pajhonka wrote:Machinate wrote:how about just real-time recording from Live into the Roland? That would work.
Thanks for the response.
I thought about doing that. I was hoping to be able to import SMFs (that had been exported from my Juno) into the software.
This is what I'll do if I can't figure out a better back & forth workflow. Thanks again.
I might be talking out of my ass here..
But i think Garage band might be able to do this

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:50 pm
by grizzler
had this problem yesterday. I made the song in ableton, exported each midi part - imported into reson then exported into type 1 midi. Easy took 10 mins longer than normal
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:53 pm
by pajhonka
grizzler wrote:had this problem yesterday. I made the song in ableton, exported each midi part - imported into reson then exported into type 1 midi. Easy took 10 mins longer than normal
Did it maintain the different MIDI channels? I have Reason so that would work.
I tried dragging my MIDI clips into Garage Band and it kept crashing...not sure why. I haven't used it very much, so it might need an update?
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:27 pm
by grizzler
Retained all the midi data, Also if u make a load of new tracks with just a blank synth on you can send the midi data from abelton back into reason and record it! That also works
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:09 am
by pajhonka
pajhonka wrote:grizzler wrote:had this problem yesterday. I made the song in ableton, exported each midi part - imported into reson then exported into type 1 midi. Easy took 10 mins longer than normal
Okay, I've given this a go a few different ways now and I cannot get this to export a multi-channel MIDI file from Reason.
I tried exporting each channel & changing the MIDI buses (Channel 1:Piano, Channel 2: Bass, etc.), but that didn't work.
I also set up ten empty Combinators for my ten MIDI tracks, but that would only allow me to record one at a time.
I also tried plugging each of my Combinator instruments directly into the Hardware Interface.
When I import any of these Reason exported files to my Juno-G, it all ends up on one channel...
I'm confused!

Re: Multi-Channel MIDI software? Ableton not the answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:34 am
by matt kattle
pajhonka wrote:Hi,
I'm trying to create a Type 1 MIDI song with 16 MIDI tracks (each on a different channel) in Ableton and export it to my Roland keyboard's sequencer. Unfortunately, I have found that this is not possible with Ableton. Does anyone know of some free/inexpensive software for OSX that can export Multi-Channel MIDI clips? Thanks!!

I had this problem too to make a music for a ds game.
I cannot believe this is so easy to do on cubase or reaper, and no way to do it on ableton. They should fix it.
So try reaper free version (i hope midi tools are not disable in it). very simple.
Re: Multi-Channel MIDI software? Ableton not the answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:27 pm
by swishniak
matt kattle wrote:
I had this problem too to make a music for a ds game.
I cannot believe this is so easy to do on cubase or reaper, and no way to do it on ableton. They should fix it.
So try reaper free version (i hope midi tools are not disable in it). very simple.
funny i was just doing this too for a ds game. i guess this kind of thing isnt needed that much anymore. i ended up exporting each track and putting them back together in logic.
Re: Multi-Channel MIDI software? Ableton not the answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:03 pm
by vicz
If you are on a mac and have quicktime pro you can open and resave the file, or use this oddly named freeware: Dent du Midi
http://homepage.mac.com/beryrinaldo/ddm/
Re: Multi-Channel MIDI software? Ableton not the answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:10 pm
by Trip Downtown
I'm actually in the middle of writing software that does a lot with Midi. This sorta thing is a bit of a pain so I was gonna write a utility to convert files (the midi code is pretty much finished). If you're on PC and don't find a workaround give me a yell. My current way of doing things is using a separate file for each track so I can work with midi from Live easier.
Also I know Sony Acid can export the midi data you need except it adds a track at the start with some sysex text saying 'Made in Acid' or something. I had to to remove that for my purposes but for you it might not matter. Not sure if Reaper can be used but prob worth a try since it's a small download.