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Im sure this would have been posted here before, but i thought id do it again since a search turned up no results.

dr steven greer has been communicating with over 300 witnesses from us government, military, and intelligence officials. he has interviewed them, and collected their testimony's and signed statements that they are willing to repeat the information they have given and present their evidence on ufo and contact in front of congress if required. the official press release was during 2001. these are people that have nothing to gain by making such claims. indeed, they certainly have a lot to loose. their reports can be connected in many cases with radar, and visual confirmation. many have provided this evidence, including taped recordings of radio conversations.

theres actually 3 parts. dvd 1, 2, and the official testimonies in front of the media. this accounts for the first 20 witnesses, and only about 1% of all their collected information.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=w5uZ15qKp ... re=related

in conection with this evidence, the uk have also recently declassified over 13,000 files on ufo sightings, some by military and police officers.

Of course UFOs exist. A UFO is simply a flying object that can't be identified.

The existence of extraterrestrial life is a little more controversial.

my friend sajit knew a guy that had top secret clearance in the military. so naturally sajit asked him if there were aliens. his friend said "thats top secret so of course I can't tell you, but what I can tell you is that we know for a fact whether or not there is"

now if you think about that, if they hadn't found anything then they couldn't say for a fact that there wasn't anything to find, the only way you would know for a fact is because you've actually found something. I always thought that one statement was far more interesting than all the conspiracy theories stacked on top of each other.

I don't think aliens would be stupid enough to let us see them. If they have been here we would never know. But who knows, some evidence would be nice though.

funknotik wrote:I don't think aliens would be stupid enough to let us see them. If they have been here we would never know. But who knows, some evidence would be nice though.

we managed to build space crafts and we are pretty f*ing stupid. what makes you think that aliens would be so brilliant?

it is there definitely!
i saw something, it was green, a head similar to us humans but it was gone so fast ,really scary i tell you.

ahhw... never mind it was something different.

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my fault,really sorry for my mistake, hope you forgive me.

theres more proof here actually

http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/spitfire.htm

I have seen all parts of this testimony and have talked with many people that have seen ufo's ..the fact the we are alone is stupid, why should an alien hide this ..why should are gov. hid this? How many generations will it take to build technology able enough to realize how simple the facts are?

The money and resources we spend on killing are selves in bloody wars we could spend on globe united efforts for space travels of are own. The people of the united states can't see past there own shit but are gov. has not given us a chance to help! THe gov loves control.

We live in a diverse biological world, where in such a sparse universe we are a goldmine of biological resources. We take it all for granted, and when they come to exploit us we must make the proper decisions rather than trust the unknown.
There is a huge hidden history on the topic. They have an agenda, after all, there is a reason they are here. There is a reason they operate behind the scenes.
With enough research you can find the truth on the subject.

Perhaps the most fascinating mass ufo sighting:

The battle of Los Angeles

search it

like god, aliens must exist because people need and want them to exist.

have fun!

I heard a theory that the governments make that shit up to keep the weirdos snooping in the wrong areas, it's a distraction.

Tone Deft wrote:like god, aliens must exist because people need and want them to exist.

have fun!

I heard a theory that the governments make that shit up to keep the weirdos snooping in the wrong areas, it's a distraction.

What is so hard to believe about the possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting our solar system? Just because our current understanding of physics doesnt permit us to leave our area of the universe doesnt mean that an ancient E.T. civilization that has existed well before us hasnt figured out traveling vast distances.

There is an abduction phenomenon, there is much evidence out there for those who do their research.

just like the god argument, the responsibility is for you to provide proof, not for me to accept rampant speculation.


I love science, think of it the other way around, why do you have to insult science by letting your imagination lead you to believe such things?

I believe the possibility of life on other planets, spores, molds, fungii, single cell organisms, but not some Steven Spielberg movie. the universe is limitless, given an infinite number of possibilities anything it possible. we don't have to contain it to our universe either, what about other dimensions?

abduction phenomena... yeah, there are also mental illnesses. Ockham's razor.

"believe about the possibility" - sure, a possibility is not an absolute, no great leap there.

Tone Deft wrote:provide proof

What kind of proof are you willing to accept?
How can i believe that you exist tone deft? Ive never met you before, all i can see is the evidence that you leave on the message board!

anyway,
Multiple witnesses, people all over the world claiming abductions which all remain consistent, video, credible people speaking about it is all available research for those who want to find the truth.

All i can provide is a information for you if your willing to do your own research. If you are willing to call my imagination an insult to science you in turn are calling millions of people liars, I assure you if you have done your research you will find that there is alot of consistency and many normal credible people associated with the topic.
Anyway, Im not going to sit here all night finding links and things for things you wont even look at. Personally, I dont care if you believe or not and i dont feel i need to prove anything. Dont you find it strange though, that even if it is a medical case, that people all experience consistent events in relation to each other?

adhmzaiusz wrote: What is so hard to believe about the possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting our solar system? Just because our current understanding of physics doesnt permit us to leave our area of the universe doesnt mean that an ancient E.T. civilization that has existed well before us hasnt figured out traveling vast distances.

Doesn't the fact that these visiting ET's are visible to us indicate that they are also bound by the same set of the laws of physics as we are here on Planet Earth?