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British Summer Time + several days of hot weather = approximately 15 million pissed up idiots roaming the streets. At twenty to one. Outside my flat. And I'll wager the simpletons are burnt to a crisp from sunburn.

Any other country suffer from this?

ya right here, but eh we dont complain

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the junkies of dublin .. rise at 8 to go get their methodone at 9. if its sunny they all conjugate on the liffey quays somewhere... like 25 of them, around 10 or 11, all of them in their full tracksuits and nike air max paid for from childrens allowance and a big bag of cans. but god bless them, they rarely harm anyone.. and are funny to point at.

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Reminds me of my days at Blackpool and Preston, where I used to live several years working for railroads. I moved there from Germany, to be more precise from Dûsseldorf, where I also lived for several years. And I could not have been more shocked: the fear of violence, trash everywhere, plenty of rats, and yes drunken idiots. Then again, moving from Düsseldorf to somewhere other than Preston or Blackpool might have been a different story.

But the people I got to know in UK were golden. First the lads did scorn me (afterall I was the only one talking english since most of them were scouchers - and as you've probably figured the job wasn't any six figure job), but after I got into a fight with the worst bully things changed dramatically. I got accepted as one of them. Of course such an initiation is disgusting, but then again in that environment it felt more like natural. And as I got accepted the care and friendship they gave me was awesome, I never had experienced such before anywhere. Even though I hate UK as an environment, I love this certain controversial quality of people.

I live in Preston. I completely know what you mean - random stabbings, casual violence, rape, murder, insanity. This is a UK-wide problem, though, but I can see it happen in the city I live in. When I think of moving away, I just realise that all of the UK is the same: you get an Ikea, a HMV, a Starbucks, a Natwest, that is all.

duluxdog wrote:When I think of moving away, I just realise that all of the UK is the same: you get an Ikea, a HMV, a Starbucks, a Natwest, that is all.

I disagree. It's not all bad. And unless you're permanently chained to an immovable object, you have the option of moving!

My son lives in Guildford, I had a girlfriend in Cheltenham, and I live in Woodbridge in Suffolk. All great places with beautiful scenery, lots to do and very low crime.

Oh come on, it's not all so bad. I was born and raised in the UK in a working class town in West Yorkshire and lived there until I was 29. Yes, there is always trouble around if you want to seek it out but most of the time it's totally fine.

The same here, I live in the Greater Toronto Area in Canada. Yes, there are a few druggies and gang members shooting each other up and occasionally an innocent person gets hit, but for the most part, the chances of being randomly attacked, shot, stabbed are no more than being hit by a falling meteorite. The people who compare TO to the worst ghettos in the States, ST. Louis, Baltimore, New York and New Jersey's worst ghettos etc are totally unrealistic.

The countryside always looks nice, but in my experience people in the country drink, take drugs and get into fights too - sometimes more so (not much to do), drunken trailer parties with magic mushrooms and under age sex and so on. And those pleasant suburbs have their share of junkies (prescription meds especially), sex maniacs/swingers and desperate housewives and husbands who are hiding something.

hambone1 wrote: My son lives in Guildford, I had a girlfriend in Cheltenham, and I live in Woodbridge in Suffolk. All great places with beautiful scenery, lots to do and very low crime.

haha! An investment of a million pounds or so in your new home does offer some shelter from the unpleasantness one finds in the more, ahem, traditionally working class areas.

Although Guildford needs to watch out, its turning into Woking.

brightonalex wrote:

hambone1 wrote: My son lives in Guildford, I had a girlfriend in Cheltenham, and I live in Woodbridge in Suffolk. All great places with beautiful scenery, lots to do and very low crime.

haha! An investment of a million pounds or so in your new home does offer some shelter from the unpleasantness one finds in the more, ahem, traditionally working class areas.

Although Guildford needs to watch out, its turning into Woking.

Generalized stereotype. Not everyone in Cheltenham lives in a million-pound property. She rented a small semi-detached house.

My son moved to Aldershot (or Aldershit as he called it) for 4 months. Couldn't wait to move back to Guildford.

NorthernMonkey wrote:British Summer Time + several days of hot weather = approximately 15 million pissed up idiots roaming the streets. At twenty to one. Outside my flat. And I'll wager the simpletons are burnt to a crisp from sunburn.

Any other country suffer from this?

actually yes, last weekend teh sunburned simpletons stabbed each others back on a semi legal rave in hamburg-willhelmsburg.
Place i work is ghetto-ish and also whack. The drunks are getting crazier every next hot day. Young migration kids (turkey, russia) are going nuts too.
I want some rain,
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brightonalex wrote:

hambone1 wrote: My son lives in Guildford, I had a girlfriend in Cheltenham, and I live in Woodbridge in Suffolk. All great places with beautiful scenery, lots to do and very low crime.

haha! An investment of a million pounds or so in your new home does offer some shelter from the unpleasantness one finds in the more, ahem, traditionally working class areas.

Although Guildford needs to watch out, its turning into Woking.

I'm talking about good old Brighton (assuming that's where you're from based on your name). Summer silly season, pissed up idiots everywhere. Mainly visitors from Essex.

This stuff all pales into comparison of living in civil war torn Dafur or the genocides in Rwanda and some of the balkan states like Kosovo and Bosnia during the 90's etc. Places where if you are a typical 10 year old you are not in school but in a sweatshop or given drugs and a rifle and forced to kill and rape such as Sierra Leone.

If people are going ape at a rave, just walk away from the rave without looking up too much or mouthing off. If trouble is always around a certain part of town, or certain pubs, avoid them. Simple, really !

leedsquietman wrote:This stuff all pales into comparison of living in civil war torn Dafur or the genocides in Rwanda and some of the balkan states like Kosovo and Bosnia during the 90's etc. Places where if you are a typical 10 year old you are not in school but in a sweatshop or given drugs and a rifle and forced to kill and rape such as Sierra Leone.

If people are going ape at a rave, just walk away from the rave without looking up too much or mouthing off. If trouble is always around a certain part of town, or certain pubs, avoid them. Simple, really !

it was really nice til the assholes started a fight, but youre right willyburg is a *certain part of town*, and it was friggin HOT.
On the other hand its the only place in hamburg where you can do semi legal raves anymore. I hope the promoters dont run into trouble with the police because i like the idea of free raves.
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I don't know much about Hamburg except that the reeperbahn and sankt pauli are places to be avoided from what I've heard. Unless you are into prostitution and illicit 'fun'. But maybe you can educate us. I've never heard of williburg.

I've seen (and gotten into) some nasty scuffles in my time, but everything was a choice I made at that given time, some choices were poor and I got whupped upside my head but I could take care of myself pretty good and mostly didn't get involved. I could have stayed home and watched TV but teens/early 20's is a time for getting out there and putting yourself about a bit socially. How far you go with trouble is still mostly a personal choice, even in the dodgiest pubs and clubs and areas.

Those days are long past, now I am early to bed with my slippers and mug of ovaltine and don't have the time or energy to act that way - being 'bad' is a night spent with Live ignoring the missus and her endless supply of chickflicks !