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Border Community Sound

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:01 pm
by hideaway
Hi everyone,


I am a new user of Ableton and just got into the forum (first post as you can see).

As a big fan of the stuff coming out of Border Community, I am trying to recreate some of their stuff or at least to produce something close to. In other words, I like the universe created by people like Ricardo Tobar and Nathan Fake (mainly), music that seem to be influenced by shoegaze and trance sounds.

Could anyone give me advices on which tools/synths/effects in Ableton I could use to get somewhere close to their trademark? I have the full version of Ableton.

I am not trying to be a simple copycat but that whole sound just inspires me and I would like to take it as a benchmark.

Many thanks in advance for your kind help.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:34 pm
by Superchibisan
get into 3s. most of the BCs stuff is primarily positioned around the funk of 3/16ths, the 3/8ths, etc.

also, look into creating your own sounds. BC is about sound design. make it interesting to listen to. good synths for this are ni massive, ni absynth, ni reaktor, max/msp, jeskola buzz(holden's original music machine), z3ta+, zebra II.

learn how to master bass. and don't be afraid to get experi*mental*

but first and foremost, make sure your music has a soul. if it sounds like a machine machine instead of like the soul of the machine, you've done something wrong.

don't be afraid to include your mistakes in the song. a lot of what happens with BC is mistakes.

oh, and make stuff warm.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:09 am
by hideaway
thanks, good advices to begin

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:22 am
by tundravisions
and don't forget to tell yourselve you really hate techno and are really sick of techno, and hate all the copycats, and that you have the feeling you're in a fight with dancemusic at the moment.

and don't cut your hair, and smoke pot alot.

(i love them too!)

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:24 pm
by Superchibisan
lol tundra...

yeah, key is to hate what everyone else is doing. SHUN THE NON-BELIEVERS!!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:21 am
by optimistic
Superchibisan wrote:get into 3s. most of the BCs stuff is primarily positioned around the funk of 3/16ths, the 3/8ths, etc.

also, look into creating your own sounds. BC is about sound design. make it interesting to listen to. good synths for this are ni massive, ni absynth, ni reaktor, max/msp, jeskola buzz(holden's original music machine), z3ta+, zebra II.

learn how to master bass. and don't be afraid to get experi*mental*

but first and foremost, make sure your music has a soul. if it sounds like a machine machine instead of like the soul of the machine, you've done something wrong.

don't be afraid to include your mistakes in the song. a lot of what happens with BC is mistakes.

oh, and make stuff warm.
That's a great summary. Also, of course, don't be afraid to strip the beat out of it completely.

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:00 pm
by hideaway
tundravisions wrote:and don't forget to tell yourselve you really hate techno and are really sick of techno, and hate all the copycats, and that you have the feeling you're in a fight with dancemusic at the moment.

and don't cut your hair, and smoke pot alot.

(i love them too!)

Hehe...thanks, for all those good advices, will see what I can do...