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(OSX) Multiple instances of Apple effects causes glitches?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:26 am
by condra
Hi guys.

Sometimes when I use more than one instance of an Apple effect, such as AU MATRIX REVERB, (or indeed the DLS device), it results in distortion and clicking.

It especially happens if I try to use more than one reverb (including the DLS inbuilt reverb) - the reverb ends up going all grainy and lofi.

Leopard 10.5.5, Ableton Live 7. It doesnt happen in Logic but does in Live..

Does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:12 am
by Tarekith
Just tried it here and it's working fine. USed the standard DSL piano with reverb, added 4 matrix reverbs after it and it was playing with no problems. The reverb goes to shit if I start clipping the channel by turning the reverb up too much, but I assume you've checked that.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:49 am
by womoma
Thanks man. That's really weird.

It happens about 9 out of 10 times here.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:51 am
by condra
^ 2 year old username FAIL :(

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:05 am
by Tarekith
Send me a copy of the poject it's happening on if you want, I'll try it for you.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:09 am
by timothyallan
works fine for me too 10.5.5

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:08 am
by kuniklo
Confirmed. Try running multiple instances of DLS on a multi-core machine.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:13 am
by condra
kuniklo wrote:Confirmed. Try running multiple instances of DLS on a multi-core machine.
kuniklo thanks for taking the time to check that out.
Send me a copy of the poject it's happening on if you want, I'll try it for you.
Cheers but it happens on all projects.

Anyway, its not a major deal as I don't often use Apples reverb, or the DLS, and when I use the DLS, I can easily turn down the reverb volume on it, and things then sound fine.

Still, its kinda weird.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:34 am
by kuniklo
I'm guessing the DLS code isn't thread safe.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:26 am
by Pasha
Confirmed here as well. Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.3.

- Best
- Pasha

Re: (OSX) Multiple instances of Apple effects causes glitche

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:38 pm
by oblique strategies
condra wrote:Sometimes when I use more than one instance of an Apple effect, such as AU MATRIX REVERB, (or indeed the DLS device), it results in distortion and clicking.

It especially happens if I try to use more than one reverb (including the DLS inbuilt reverb) - the reverb ends up going all grainy and lofi.
Do you mean more than one AU MATRIX REVERB in a single channel (audio passing through multiple instances), or per session?

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