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Hi, I have a VSTi plug-in that has an hidden parameter. It's not a VST automatable parameter, in fact Ableton Live doesn't see it, it's a parameter that reacts only to midi cc n° 92, sent on midi channel 1.
I want to control that parameter realtime, with an hardware controller, but I don't want to modify my hardware controller to send midi cc 92 - ch. 1 to that VSTi.
So I was wondering if it exists something that allows to convert that midi parameter into a VST automatable parameter, maybe a VST plugin with sliders or knobs that the host can see as VST automatable parameters. The user can set the midi cc value and midi channel that each knob or slider will output when automated.
Any hint?

http://www.sharewareconnection.com/vst- ... ension.htm

May b of use??

Anyone know if there is an Audio Unit equivalent of this?

Gav

quote from the site "VST MIDI Control Extension (MCX) is a plugin wrapper attached to the selected VST plugin that extends the plugin with MIDI controlling capabilities. The extension allows you to assign each parameter of the VST plugin to a MIDI control event (CC0 - CC127)"

I think i need just the opposite, assign to a VST plugin parameter a midi cc.

Hi Marcus,

if i understand you right you need something that converts the message which your controller sends to a CC#92.
That could be done with a software like Bomes Midi Translator:
www.bome.com
This Translator picks off the message from your controller and converts it to CC#92 before it sends the message to Live.
That should do it, or is there a special reason why you need a VST for this?

@Gav:
Not AU but similar to Bomes Midi Translator:
MidiPipe: http://web.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html

Best,
dfi

[dfi] wrote:Hi Marcus,

if i understand you right you need something that converts the message which your controller sends to a CC#92.
That could be done with a software like Bomes Midi Translator:
www.bome.com
That should do it, or is there a special reason why you need a VST for this?

Yes, bome's midi translator will work. The reason I want a VST is that I'd liket to automate that parameter like any other VST parameter in live, clicking the midi button and assigning a knob to it on my control surface.

It's a pity that racks in ableton can't output plain midi messages. If it was so I could group the Vst into a rack and assign midi cc 92 to one of the eight knob. Then I would assign that knob to my control surface the usual way.

This way I wouldn't need any standalone app to add to my setup.

The ideal solution suold be CC-Rider Vst by subliminal

here --> http://subminimal.org/tools.php

quote from site "CC-Rider has two funtions. It can use VST automation parameters to transmit Midi-CC's. It can also record midi-CC's to create VST automation curves".

But unfortunately it doesn't work: it loads correctly (as an fx), but I can't see any midi coming out of it.

maybe have a look at plogue bidule vst.it does a lot more than you are asking but between the built in stuff and the freebies available on the web (ie: pizmidi) you can do almost anything to/with midi.