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headquest: point taken, sorry for any confusion.

nathannn: +1 for perseverance. You should try the Podium demo...

headquest, you've hit upon the politics of the whole issue:

It currently (in 5.2.2 and 6.x) DOES work as Ableton intends.

Previously, I believe, it didn't even work like that.

But for those of us who are requesting an option to change the behaviour, we experience it as a bug - not just a ...

Thanks nod and mbenigni for the 'props' :)

Since some of the posts here have got a bit aggressive, I do want to reiterate something I said in the 'MIDI delay recording' thread: I think 99% of Live is GREAT .

And my criticisms aren't a personal slight against any of the Ableton staff. I appreciate ...

Not to hijack this thread, but... is there an easy work-around for this problem, such as a MIDI-plugin to adjust the start time of the events in a given clip/track? Or a quick way to edit all said events destructively to compensate for the delay?
Workarounds include adding the soundcard latency as ...

Hello!

Well, I said in the "MIDI delay recording" thread that I wouldn't be back on this forum, but I wound up here by following a link from the Project5 forum...and felt I should reply because I was being discussed in some of the posts! (fame at last!!)

I use Live 5.2.2. This version of Live ...

This is the solution I've found to this issue. :wink: :twisted: Project 5! I'm also interested in Bidule for more complex routing/sound design.

So it's with relief and pleasure that I'm unsubscribing from this thread and will no longer worry about this MIDI delay issue.

I am very sorry to be ...

I think the difference that drb is describing is simply between the time it takes for a vst to generate a sound (defined by ASIO buffer) and the time it takes an external synth to make a sound (which is of course faster because not processed by the computer).

The main problem described in this ...

docjah: The notes play back where they were recorded (as Synthbuilder says).

But where the notes were recorded is delayed by the sound card's latency. They weren't recorded where you played them, but rather where you heard them.

If you want to record them where you played them, you have to turn ...

Is this the problem?

Hello

Thanks Amaury for the detailed response.

Before I get back into the theory, let me give you a concrete example.

Yesterday I recorded a piano overdub on the end of my song Distance of a Touch (you can hear the complete song here ). To do this in Live I had on one track an audio clip of a ...

Hello again,

Still here and still trying to work around this issue! :roll:

Can I confirm - with monitoring ON, Live delays the midi recording by the total latency reported on the Audio tab? I.e. the audio input AND output latency...

...even though there's no audio input latency for MIDI data ...

Ouch, I agree that does seem a ridiculous latency. It's hard to know what the cause is. What sample rate are you using? Although that might seem to reduce latency, it raises CPU of course.

Some other users have reported that adding tracks and effects to a set increases latency (irrespective of PDC ...

If i need to switch the monitoring to "off" how can i hear myself play ? Do i route the track to a separate output or something ? still, how can i hear myself play with monitoring off ?
Answer: you don't ! Welcome to Live's delay-by-design feature. As you'll see from following this link , it's ...

My advice: download the 30-day demo of Adobe Audition and use it to finish this project!

lol... welcome jer ohm !

I'm still not experiencing any CPU problems specific to Ohmicide at all on my Pentium 4 3.2 PC (single core, hyperthreading on)

...no more than the usual jumps of Live's CPU meter that happen whenever you try to do something adventurous like play a few tracks of audio ...