Windows 7

Rattmouth · Post by **Rattmouth** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:20 pm

I am running two Windows7 RCs, on my desktop and on my Laptop.

Desktop = Win7 64-bit, Quad-core Intel, 4 Gigs RAM, M-Audio Profire610, Live 8.0.5
Vaio Laptop = Win7 64-bit, Dual-core, 4 Gigs RAM, Asio4all, Live 8.0.5

Seriously, I've not run into a single problem with either of them. The OS performs better than both Vista (previously on the laptop) and XP (previously on the desktop) in every task I do. The only exception would be the workspace panels in my Adobe CS3 Web Production suite. Sometimes they lose the title bar and I have to click around to get them to show up. Actually I think this is only in Photoshop. I am not a gamer, so someone else would need to make that call.

But with audio, all of my VST plugins work. No weird sound anomalies. No MIDI latency. I would say that my experience has been flawless, but I guess it is better than that if I consider the advancements in Win7 (like the taskbar, networking, etc).

Go for it!
--Matt

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:25 pm

This stuff ain't by me. I don't know, because early adopting is crazy IMHO, I will always wait for official support before upgrading. I'm presenting how this forum contrasts with elsewhere.

But I do know that not everything from 2-3 years back works well. RME drivers were only running under Win 7 32 bit, and plenty of other issues brought down win 7. Apparently this is now being fixed but it's not an isolated incident.

If 4GB equates to 1GB in XP, then I'll be screwed with my 4GB laptop - that's the frigging ceiling !

Also remember - Live is not a 64 bit application yet - Wait until it goes native 64 bit and half of your plugins no longer work, even with bit bridging. The 64 bit world is not on full cylinders yet.

H20nly · Post by **H20nly** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:47 pm

^ you make a solid argument.

leedsquietman wrote:If 4GB equates to 1GB in XP, then I'll be screwed with my 4GB laptop - that's the frigging ceiling !

I think it would be a little higher than that... like... 1.33 or so

but you have to ask on what versus what is that RAM ratio. Those things change and vary - Some tasks better, some tasks not so much. If frames per second on Doom or some other madness is the measuring stick, I say don't sweat it.

I have exactly 4 GB of RAM in my Laptop on my right and I still have my desktop on my left as I'm typing in to. I say its worth seeing for myself. I'll guinea pig it. Thats what rollback are for - ripcord.

The RME thing is a bummer because I was thinking of heading in that direction. My Alesis MM8 is not cutting it for me any more. I'm sure at this point that its the weakest link.

Rattmouth wrote:Asio4all,

it works huh?

shuutobi · Post by **shuutobi** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:52 pm

Windows 7 uses a bit over 500mb in 32bit, 800+mb in 64bit...

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:00 pm

I hate to see you guys miss out based on fear. I understand that early adoption is risky, but that's why I stayed away from Vista. Win7 is basically the final release, whereas Vista was basically the beta. This has been made rock solid with plenty of testing and driver support. Again, up to you, but I think you guys are living in fear.

A couple of complete bullshit comments...I have no idea what you're talking about regarding RME. I have a 5-year-old RME Multiface, and I have ROCK SOLID low latency drivers in Win7x64. I can run it at 32 samples, which is less than 1ms of latency (0.7ms to be specific). RME has always had rock solid drivers with all versions of windows, as far as I know. But please feel free to correct me on this...all I'm saying is that I have 5-year-old hardware that works flawlessly on Win7x64.

As for the ram issue, again, I just don't see the big fear of it all. 4gb of ram is a fucklot of ram. Even if your OS takes 1gb of it, that's still 3gb left for applications. I would love to know the last time Live took 3gb of ram to run a project. Seriously, guys, get practical here. I think the ram issue is moot.

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:22 pm

@leedsretardoman - Heres your hot and steamy meltdown.. Would you like ketchup with that?

What the fuck do I care if your not going to jump on the windows 7 bandwagon? Seriously dude.. Get over yourself.. I dont base my opinions of what other people say and do, like you do champ. I live the facts

I'll be laughing all the way to bank on W7 while your sitting at home with your measly 1gb ram running an acient XP pro box, and stroking the "giant cock" that is the cubase forum. You got something on your chin BTW..

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:30 pm

^

While I'm not gonna be that crude about it, I will agree with the sentiment...if you don't wanna upgrade to Win7, that's no skin off my back whatsoever. But I'm enjoying a completely trouble free system that's way WAY better than XP.

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:33 pm

nebulae wrote:I hate to see you guys miss out based on fear. I understand that early adoption is risky, but that's why I stayed away from Vista. Win7 is basically the final release, whereas Vista was basically the beta. This has been made rock solid with plenty of testing and driver support. Again, up to you, but I think you guys are living in fear.

A couple of complete bullshit comments...I have no idea what you're talking about regarding RME. I have a 5-year-old RME Multiface, and I have ROCK SOLID low latency drivers in Win7x64. I can run it at 32 samples, which is less than 1ms of latency (0.7ms to be specific). RME has always had rock solid drivers with all versions of windows, as far as I know. But please feel free to correct me on this...all I'm saying is that I have 5-year-old hardware that works flawlessly on Win7x64.

As for the ram issue, again, I just don't see the big fear of it all. 4gb of ram is a fucklot of ram. Even if your OS takes 1gb of it, that's still 3gb left for applications. I would love to know the last time Live took 3gb of ram to run a project. Seriously, guys, get practical here. I think the ram issue is moot.

I work on some pretty large songs with quite a few plugins with upwards to 70-80 tracks and RAM usage gets up close to 3gb.. Usually hangs out between 2.6-2.8gb of RAM usage... I'll post a screeny.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:37 pm

^ ok fine, so my point is that 4gb is still plenty.

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:51 pm

Heres a set with like 60 tracks (if you include the returns), and check out the ram usage.. lowly AMD dualcore home computer that i just edit and surf around on. But it gets the job done when im away from the studio and need to edit/process shit at home.

So, you dont need a very fast computer, you just need a decent amount of ram and your good to go. That was my only point.. I'm not arguing that 4gb is plenty.. I think were agreeing on that.

But if your going to try to do music with 1gb on W7, forget about it..

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:58 pm

^hawt!

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:22 pm

Earwax69 · Post by **Earwax69** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:16 am

Im temporarly on a Vista 2.4ghz and 2gb of ram system here. Live run very very well even with 40 tracks full of fx. Windows 7 is suppose to take less memory than vista. Look like everything will be fine when I will get my free upgrade. (gotta get a new i7 comp soon anyway)

jsg4z · Post by **jsg4z** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:19 am

enough people said live8 works fine for me to order myself a copy. <crossed fingers>

Ive just had xp for so long...i may be jumping the gun on this, but no risk no reward right?

doremifa · Post by **doremifa** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:20 am

both Win7x64 on my PC and MacBookPro now. Really more stable than XP and Leopard for me. And Super task bar rules.

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