Midi Sync delay

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MarMania
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Midi Sync delay

Post by MarMania » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:01 pm

Hello all,

I have a problem in syncing my external hardware like synth,s to the sequencer in live 4.1. This does not do anything. For example when the sequencer plays the midi notes the audio from the synth is to late entering in audio to Live.

I read more about these problems, Ableton is working on it. But how change this, I think we need a midi note delay setting. Maybe I am wrong, I am now only 3 months into this midi thing.

But for the time being, how can I solve this problem now, take an external sequencer? And which one then?

Hope to get reactions

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Post by mexique1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:29 pm

almost same issue with my setup...

my problem is : when i record midi from my groovebox for example, it's recorded a bit too late in live. and the same when i re-record the midi from live into my grooveboxes. the "delay" is around 1/2048 measure (you can't hear it in fact, but i'd like a perfect timing)

the only solution to minimize this delay, is to have the minimum latency on you soundcard and search with the sync delay in the preferences until you are almost in time :?

how much latency have you got ?

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MarMania
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Post by MarMania » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:35 pm

Hola,

I am not spanish, just a foreigner living here.

Which latency you mean. When I send the notes from the Live sequencer to the hardware the audio is 0,57 ms too late.

My audio latency I tested as written in the manual, and is perfect.

I told you I am not a pro when it comes to midi, but we all started one day.

Greetings

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Post by mexique1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:45 pm

stange 8O

with a latency of 0.57ms, you shouldn't hear any difference...

i was talking about the latency you choosed in the control panel of your soundcard

in fact, i can't really help you, i haven't tried to bounce the audio from my machines, so i haven't noticed this problem... the only thing i've tried is using live as an effect device, and there was no delay at minimum latency :?

i reassure you, i'm also a beginner in midi :oops:
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Post by chymera » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:12 pm

i've encountered problems with midi latency, which I traced back to the midi output on my soundcard (firewire 410) I switched to an EdirolUSB 1 in. 1 out device and there was no latency at all. Try your external gear with a different midi interface and see if there is any difference.

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Post by mexique1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:21 pm

good idea but... actually i'm using a midisport 2in 2out in USB 1, otherwise i can try with the midi ports of my soundcard... so exactly the contrary ! :lol:
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Post by MarMania » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:23 pm

Oaky, but why is this sync delay setting not working at all in Live, no matter what you change. Is it because of Midiclock only?

Thanks

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Post by MarMania » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:25 pm

I am using midisport 2x4, and I believe that my soundcard Digi002 with the midi can NOT be used with Live. Or am I now totally LOCO.

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Post by mexique1 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:27 pm

why is this sync delay setting not working at all in Live
at all ? maybe you should download the last bugfix 4.1.1
[06] Bug: Latency compensation field

Platform: All

There was an rounding problem with the latency compensation field in the
audio preferences.

Status: Fixed
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