440Hz or 432Hz

majais · Post by **majais** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:03 pm

I've read on a webpage that it were the Nazi's that brought the change from 432Hz to 440Hz as a basic tuning up onto today.
After reading I've changed the tuning of "Kontakt" to 432Hz and I must say I like it.
Anybody has an opinion about this?

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:30 pm

yea, hitler kaputt

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:34 pm

No, not the Nazis. It has changed a lot of the centuries. Here's an article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_%28m ... tern_music

I don't think it really matters. Now tuning systems, thats another matter. I'm of the opinion that electronic musicians should use just tuning, or another more pure tuning than equal tempered, considering how rarely electronic music changes to obscure keys.

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:53 pm

majais wrote:I've read on a webpage that it were the Nazi's that brought the change from 432Hz to 440Hz as a basic tuning up onto today.

lol, and source of this info is? The old rumor that "in 1939 Goebbels dictated 440Hz in order to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness."

Entertaining Cconspiracy stuff, but it's BS.

440Hz has been decided to be standard in 1939 by the International Federation of the National Standardizing Associations (ISA, has now become ISO) in London.

The US used 440Hz as a standard since 1910 after John Calhoun Deagan persuaded the American Federation of Musicians to do so.

Cheers,
Dom

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:29 pm

dom wrote:Entertaining Cconspiracy stuff, but it's BS.

Well he would say that, wouldn't he.

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:46 pm

dom wrote:The old rumor that "in 1993 Goebbels dictated...."

fx23 · Post by **fx23** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:53 pm

it reminds me I experienced i liked the 50hz frequency (thought might come from elec signal is 50 Hz here all around, even TV rate..)
whereas the closest note is 49hz wich is G..so problematic whit tonal stuff, not with atonal..so i keep on using some times.
anything that is better to your ears...

33tetragammon · Post by **33tetragammon** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:29 pm

majais wrote:I've read on a webpage that it were the Nazi's that brought the change from 432Hz to 440Hz as a basic tuning up onto today.
After reading I've changed the tuning of "Kontakt" to 432Hz and I must say I like it.
Anybody has an opinion about this?

a few months ago,my best friend received info about 432 hz tuning,it seemed to be a galactic tone,which has the same frequency as the heartchakra
if you are open to it,you can feel the difference.
trust your feelings about it,not what someone else thinks about it.

it's a way of resonating with the Universe.

dinaiz · Post by **dinaiz** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:22 pm

mikemc wrote:
dom wrote:The old rumor that "in 1993 Goebbels dictated...."

I think he tried a comeback

squelcht · Post by **squelcht** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:38 pm

33tetragammon wrote:
majais wrote:I've read on a webpage that it were the Nazi's that brought the change from 432Hz to 440Hz as a basic tuning up onto today.
After reading I've changed the tuning of "Kontakt" to 432Hz and I must say I like it.
Anybody has an opinion about this?
a few months ago,my best friend received info about 432 hz tuning,it seemed to be a galactic tone,which has the same frequency as the heartchakra
if you are open to it,you can feel the difference.
trust your feelings about it,not what someone else thinks about it.

it's a way of resonating with the Universe.

I like where your going with this...Never heard of a 432 hz tuning relation tho...I shall read into that

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:46 pm

mikemc wrote:
dom wrote:The old rumor that "in 1993 Goebbels dictated...."
8O

:lol:

Uhm, oops! I'll edit...

Slightlydelic · Post by **Slightlydelic** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:14 pm

how strange, i just started reading the wiki link posted above and noticed this

Pitch inflation

During historical periods when instrumental music rose in prominence (relative to the voice), there was a continuous tendency for pitch levels to rise. This "pitch inflation" seemed largely a product of instrumentalists' competing with each other, each attempting to produce a brighter, more "brilliant", sound than that of their rivals.

sound familiar?

majais · Post by **majais** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:48 pm

Thanks for all the replies, it seems to be a much more important issue than I thought. I remember that I've also read a while ago about that "galactic" tone etc. somewhere. I have no opinion about that but at least it made me think about tuning in general which I have never considered before. I couldn't find back the webpage where I read about this story that the Nazi's are responsible but I have to admit it sounds quite weird. (Thanks for some of the background info also!).

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:44 pm

There's the Pythagorean Monochord, which a friend received information is 560 Hz, although some would disagree. And the Schumann Resonance is 7.83 Hz (and rising!) which could be transposed into audible ranges. Personally I don't think there are 'magic' frequencies, I don't think our brains respond much that way, and reality is much more complex than that. I think things like tuning systems governing the exact mathematical relationships between tones, harmonic/melodic progressions, and rhythmic patterns have a far greater impact on the brain and/or our psycho-spiritual experience.

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