Push on/off MIDI pad for use w/ beat repeat

[natecraypo]

Howdy. This is really specific and is probably incredibly simple to accomplish, but I'm lost, so here we go. I'm trying to get a solid stutter with beat repeat and I want to be able to turn the effect on by pushing down on a pad (on an M-Audio Axiom 49) while releasing said pad will turn the effect off. I'm not sure how to do this, but I'm positive it's more simple than I want it to be (as each depression and release of the pad sends a MIDI on and a MIDI off message, respectively). I hope that made sense.

[logic_user99]

What system are you on? Mac? PC?

If you're on a Mac, you'll need to use MIDIPipe (or some such thing) to convert the MIDI note data. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... ipipe.html. On a PC I know there are an ASSLOAD of programs that do it; can't think of any off the top of my head, though, as I'm not a PC user!

You have to set the pad to fire Note On when you hit it AND when you release it, as Live doesn't respond to the 'Note Off' message. You could always convert the pad to a MIDI CC# and do it that way...

[natecraypo]

Awesome. Yeah, I'm on OS X. Thank you muchly. MIDI pipe. I've actually heard of it before and I totally blanked on it. Boy howdy is my face red. Oh wait, here, I can show you, like this -

[keyboardcowb0y]

Aside from the midi messages being sent, it sounds like you want a non-stop repeat to occur instead of repeating every 4 beats (or something like that). To do this, midi map your contoller to the power button of the beat repeat (upper left corner). Then make sure that the button labeled "Repeat" (middle left side), is selected. With that button selected it will repeat the beat until you turn the effect off.

[hurlingdervish]

i think its also easier to put the on/off on a knob

that way you can keep your hands on the knobs at all times, and if it was gated, you wouldnt have to hit the button twice

[natecraypo]

Awesome. Thanks guys. Although, I do enjoy the percussive feel of hitting a big ol' button (or a fatty pad) more, which brings me to my next question. Is there a way to sync more than one button to the same function in live? For example, I want to sync more than one pad to the beat repeat on/off switch so that I can do some very quick stutters, scratching effects, what have you. 3 pads working as push on/off switches for the same effect would be ideal. Also, can I achieve gating the pad in live or do I need some other software (such as the aforementioned MIDIpipe)? Thanks.

[longjohns]

you need to set the various buttons to send the same MIDI message. so if you can do that on your controller, you're set.

otherwise i'm sure you can do it via some 3rd party MIDI processing app

[logic_user99]

Awesome. Thanks guys. Although, I do enjoy the percussive feel of hitting a big ol' button (or a fatty pad) more, which brings me to my next question. Is there a way to sync more than one button to the same function in live? For example, I want to sync more than one pad to the beat repeat on/off switch so that I can do some very quick stutters, scratching effects, what have you. 3 pads working as push on/off switches for the same effect would be ideal. Also, can I achieve gating the pad in live or do I need some other software (such as the aforementioned MIDIpipe)? Thanks.

Again, MIDIPipe will hook you up. But then, you should just be able to set up one pipe to do the job and change the transmit note of your controller... three pads will feed MP with the same note. Win.

[natecraypo]

awesome. thanks everyone.

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[Bierman]

I have an Axiom 49 and use the pads for effects instead of triggering sounds/clips/samples whatever so I thought I should pipe up here....

what I do is use the pads not to send MIDI note information, but MIDI cc data, akin to turning a knob... except with this when you push the button down it sends the MIDI cc value according to how hard you press down and hold, and then the send goes away when you release your finger. you can then map your rotary knobs to parameters of the beat repeat or whatever else you desire, so push down on a pad to send (eg your snare) to the beat repeat and twiddle away. I find this method quite expressive.

you don't need MIDI Pipe either, just reconfigure your pads to send midi cc's instead of note data. You can do this either on the Axiom itself, or using Enigma, the editing software for pretty much all od M-Audio's controllers. You can download it from the m-audio website. (be warned its not particularly user friendly but feel free to send me a message if you can't figure it out)

[jordan743]

What system are you on? Mac? PC?

If you're on a Mac, you'll need to use MIDIPipe (or some such thing) to convert the MIDI note data. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... ipipe.html. On a PC I know there are an ASSLOAD of programs that do it; can't think of any off the top of my head, though, as I'm not a PC user!

You have to set the pad to fire Note On when you hit it AND when you release it, as Live doesn't respond to the 'Note Off' message. You could always convert the pad to a MIDI CC# and do it that way...

I'm having the same trouble, only I'm using a Korg nanoPAD and running on Windows Vista.

[dentaku]

I was writing a post about something I wanted to do with my AKAI LPD8 but then I realized how to do it while writing it
It's not the same thing as what the original poster was trying to do but...
I set my LPD8 so that pads 1 through 7 control the GRID knob on the beat repeater (hold down SHIFT and then hold down pad1 and pad7 which is C1:F#1, while in MIDI map mode) Min 1/24, Max 1/3 and I set pad 8 to the Repeat button so I can turn it on and off.

What system are you on? Mac? PC?

If you're on a Mac, you'll need to use MIDIPipe (or some such thing) to convert the MIDI note data. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... ipipe.html. On a PC I know there are an ASSLOAD of programs that do it; can't think of any off the top of my head, though, as I'm not a PC user!

You have to set the pad to fire Note On when you hit it AND when you release it, as Live doesn't respond to the 'Note Off' message. You could always convert the pad to a MIDI CC# and do it that way...

I'm having the same trouble, only I'm using a Korg nanoPAD and running on Windows Vista.

[Sonny Woodworth]

I have beat repeat on/off mapped to a button that I have set to momentary. When I press the button the beat repeat comes on and gives me that stuttering effect you are looking for. When I stop pressing it the beat repeat turns off. It sounds to me like this may be what you are looking to accomplish. Can you edit your Axiom 49 buttons from Toggle to Momentary?

Here is how I have it set up for an 1/8th note repeat:

[mojofunk]

I have an Axiom 49 and use the pads for effects instead of triggering sounds/clips/samples whatever so I thought I should pipe up here....

what I do is use the pads not to send MIDI note information, but MIDI cc data, akin to turning a knob... except with this when you push the button down it sends the MIDI cc value according to how hard you press down and hold, and then the send goes away when you release your finger. you can then map your rotary knobs to parameters of the beat repeat or whatever else you desire, so push down on a pad to send (eg your snare) to the beat repeat and twiddle away. I find this method quite expressive.

you don't need MIDI Pipe either, just reconfigure your pads to send midi cc's instead of note data. You can do this either on the Axiom itself, or using Enigma, the editing software for pretty much all od M-Audio's controllers. You can download it from the m-audio website. (be warned its not particularly user friendly but feel free to send me a message if you can't figure it out)

I think the above is what you are looking for. No need to complicate with translators. I found it pretty easy to do tis to the Axiom pads, their manual spells it out very clearly.

[soumam]

Hey everyone! What I would like to do is the opposite of what the OP suggested. I have a momentary push button (send ON on press, and OFF on release) but I would like to use this button as a toggle (ON on press, and OFF on subsequent press). I assume this is possible since midipipe seems like a pretty badass little program but I wanted a second opinion.

You see, I'm planning on purchasing a xone:2d pretty soon and the 12 buttons right under the faders are momentary push buttons, I would like to use them as toggles for effects. If what I'm trying to do is completely impossible I'll probably consider a different interface/midi controller.

Also, does midipipe add substantial strain to the CPU? I'm currently using a 1.83GHz macbook pro with 1.5GB RAM.

Any help is appreciated