FARMPAD for padKontrol now v 1.3.1 !!! !!!

[delicioso]

But I've been also used to ctrl+C while in the terminal to exit farmpad. Is it soooo bad?

No, it's not that big a deal. I wish I didn't have to remember to have Terminal running with farmpad every time I use Live and then remember to quit out of farmpad through the terminal. It just would be better if it would work as it was part of Live so I didn't have to think about it most of the time unless I wanted to edit it or change configs. The benefits of farmpad far outweigh the inconvenience of remembering to have Terminal running.

But if only farmpad had a text command to quit from the Terminal such as

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farmpad exit

or something like that, then that would be all that's needed to automate the process of launching and quitting farmpad in the background when I start and quit Live.

[supamonsta]

or perhaps could you automate the cmd+c keystroke? (but this would need another 3rd party app like bomes translator, to be running in the background and so that would need to be exited too when quitting live... lol)

dunno, I never automated anything but CC values with a computer

did you try to contact FlyCycle, the author of farmpad? He used to be on the korg forums, topic "farmpad"... don't know if he still browses it, as I'm pretty sure he decided that his little gold freebie was now finished and operationnal with 1.3.1.

cheers

[delicioso]

Ahahaha!!! I did it! It took many many hours of troubleshooting since there are so many ways to go about doing the same things but I finally figured it out with the help of applescript, QuicKeys, and automator. And I learned more about Applescript in the process. Monstrejumo, your mention of using .command files (after chmod +x the .txt config files in terminal) is what set me on the right track. Turns out, running .command files as an automator workflow was the only way I could get the config to launch in Terminal and still have the terminal running in active farmpad mode (so that I could automate quitting farmpad later).

(but this would need another 3rd party app like bomes translator, to be running in the background and so that would need to be exited too when quitting live... lol)

Not really with QuicKeys. I highly recommend QuicKeys to everyone. It can be set to start up with your computer so it always stays on (doesn't take up any cpu: 0.1%) and can be set to always stay hidden in the background so it doesn't even take up space in the dock. It has a built-in MIDI translator that's much more powerful and useful than midistroke. In fact, with QuicKeys you can not only easily midi map keystrokes, but also any menu items, including context menus, pop up menus...etc.

So now, whenever I launch Live, I have QuicKeys do the following:
- have automator launch my config file in Terminal, and then minimize the Terminal window to hide it out of way
- 2 seconds after Live launches, an applescript runs to make Live the frontmost application (since otherwise, the Terminal or Automap Server (which launches automatically for my Nocturn) would be at the front).
Then when I quit Live:
- an applescript quits the Novation Automap Server
- an applescript makes Terminal the frontmost application, runs a command to un-minimize the window, and then runs the command to quit out of farmpad
- then finally, 2 seconds later, an applescript quits Terminal.

Call me lazy, but I like having the seamless experience of having farmpad feel like it's part of Live!

[supamonsta]

Delicioso, what you did seems really delicious.

I'll check Quickeys... is it freeware? I guess not...

anyway I always admire lateral thinking, and here is another great one, even if it needed lots of workarounds to get something basic automatically done

You get farmpad exiting when quitting live, that's great, but I read you also get AUTOMAP SERVER also quitting!!! It always annoys me to have to quit automap server after exiting live (and really often I don't use the nocturn, so it annoys me a lots more to haveto shut it down...)


WOULD YOU SHARE YOUR WORKAROUNDS ????

(I never used applescripts, nor automator... )

cheers

[supamonsta]

I checked quickeys, and this seems really great, while a bit overcomplicated if needed to use in conjunction with scripts, automator, my padkontrol + farmpad...)

but it seems really promising.

you can even set up different midi chords to trigger different stuff!


The DEMO version seems to last for ever, just that after 30 days a splashscreen may warn that the demo period has ended... but the app stays fully usable!!

I'll check this really soon, and try again to set up stuff I could not manage with midi translator or midistroke with my farmpadkontrol (assign the encoder to open browser in a specified folder, browse my songs and then a switch to load the selected song in a specified track, then close browser...)

thanks for the tips




EDIT ====>

Your workaround is interesting, but I realise that I use several different farmpad user configs (one for composition, one for my "classical" gig live set, and one other for my "improvisationnal looper-ambiant-glitchy" live set)...

so I need to choose what config file I load into farmpad, and this could not be automated (or with 3 different live icons, each with a different script to launch the needed farmpad file... well, I'll stick with my present habits, becaouse It allows me to swap the farmpad config file without having to quit live)

but quickeys still do interest me...

[delicioso]

Your workaround is interesting, but I realise that I use several different farmpad user configs (one for composition, one for my "classical" gig live set, and one other for my "improvisationnal looper-ambiant-glitchy" live set)...

so I need to choose what config file I load into farmpad, and this could not be automated (or with 3 different live icons, each with a different script to launch the needed farmpad file... well, I'll stick with my present habits, becaouse It allows me to swap the farmpad config file without having to quit live)

I see. But with farmpad's 128 scenes, couldn't you maybe consolidate the different configs into one and just switch scenes instead? Anyhoo, quickeys will still be useful for you. I'll share the ones that I'm using that I think you might find useful:

Hiding Terminal window after Live launches
Create shortcut in QuicKeys, choose the 'app event' trigger (this and all the ones below use 'All Applications > All Parts of All Applications settings), and select options so that it says '0 secs after Live opens'. Add Step > Scripting > Applescript > Script File. Choose a script file (.scpt) that you make with the applescript Script Editor with the following code that brings the Terminal window to the front and then minimizes it.

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tell application "System Events"
	tell application "Terminal" to activate
	key code 46 using command down
end tell

Bring Live to front after launch (instead of Terminal or Automap Server for example)
Create an 'app event' like above and set it to '2 secs after Live opens'. Add a step with an applescript file with the following:

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tell application "Live"
	activate
end tell

Quit AutomapServer after Live quits
Create app event 0 secs after Live quits to run the following:

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tell application "AutomapServer"
	quit
end tell

Quit Farmpad (this one is for when Terminal window has been hidden/minimized)
Run app event 0 secs after Live quits to run:

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tell application "System Events"
	set FrontApplication to "Terminal"
	key code 18 using command down
	key code 8 using control down
end tell

Quit Terminal after Farmpad quits
Run app event 2 secs after Live quits to run:

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tell application "Terminal"
	quit
end tell

[supamonsta]

you're the one!

I'm downloading quickeys, but I won't have time to try it before sunday... gig wednesday, gig saturday, and work work work the week before.

thanks a lot you're a delicious person

[jrathkopf]

can you use Farmpad and keep the roll/flam functions with xy?

[supamonsta]

no you can't

[delicioso]

can you use Farmpad and keep the roll/flam functions with xy?

no, but you can use the arpegiator device for the roll function. farmpad also allows you to make the xy pad work exactly like the kaoss pad touchscreens.

[S4racen]

can you use Farmpad and keep the roll/flam functions with xy?

no, but you can use the arpegiator device for the roll function. farmpad also allows you to make the xy pad work exactly like the kaoss pad touchscreens.

Best feature of it... oh that and the groups.... and the configurable buttons.... and the.....

It's great!

Cheers
D

[benjamingordon]

hi everyone... im on snowleopard and am running farmpad... i installed it, restarted, connected my padkontrol, opened terminal, typed farmpad and it gets stuck everytime on 'entering active mode'

does anyone know how to solve this?

many thanks, benji

[supamonsta]

well, you got to type a config.txt, with bits and pieces you copy/paste from the help and examples provided with farmpad...

'entering active mode' => cool, you're not stuck, it works. (to exit, press command+C in the terminal)

it may load the default.txt, you can find in the different notes provided what's the default config.

don't expect something like a GUI to appear...

you got to make your own configuration.txt

I use smultron for this duty, I open my "myconfig.txt", while opening the different examples .txt, and make copy/paste, change channels, stuff...

you'll need one or 2 days on it, but after you got it, you'll be the padkontrol GOD


good luck mate

[benjamingordon]

haha thanks man!! but you totally confused me...

i had this working before without editing any default.txt??

it goes into entering active mode but the pad kontrol doesnt flash or respond in any way! it did before but im on snow leopard now so this is why i asked?

i just want this to be nice and simple, i use the pads for triggering toggled drum loops/clips and the pad to control beat repeat and the knobs for delay and level....

whats a configuration.txt?

[supamonsta]

ok sorry for confusing you

I do understand, reading your problem, that farmpad is not updated to work on snow leopard...

don't bother with the configuration stuff if it worked well for you without it before...

that said, just imagine you got a whole universe to discover just behind the door, you can let the door closed if you're OK like that, or, open the door, and make some steps outside...

cheers