why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

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ethios4
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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by ethios4 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:03 pm

Hmm, not sure why you are getting 15% CPU in Live and 100% in activity monitor. Is your internal drive a SATA drive? I am able to run projects with 40+ tracks of 32-bit audio with no dropouts using my dedicated internal 7200 SATA drive, so it should be possible for you. Since you've got 1 GB of free RAM you could put some audio in RAM to ease your hard drive load.

Still, it seems like there is something else going on...CPU activity, no problems with larger sets, occasionally plays fine. Hmmm....

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by Earwax69 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:44 pm

Why not tell us what you get running the Ableton cpu test project?

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=111880

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by andrew_ » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:00 am

Here's what I got...

1) Ableton Live CPU Meter %19
2) Desktop Mac Pro
3) Mac OS 10.6.1
4) Ableton Live version 8.0.4
5) CPU Make, Model, and Speed? 2 x 2.8ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
6) Amount of Ram? 4gb
7) Soundcard (and driver version if you know it)? MOTU 8Pre
8) Hard Disk Drive Speed (if you know)? 7200
9) Number of playback tracks? 8

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by McQ714 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:47 am

what's the matter with people? update your version of Live and get back to us!!!

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by vicz » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:44 pm

Audio and CPU buffer sizes if you are using AU or VSTs? Any messages in Console?

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by andrew_ » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:58 pm

I've turned off every plugin in the set. No console messages. Newest version of Live now. Exact same dropout situation, this set only.

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by angryman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:45 pm

Im getting the same problem, and it basically reads exactly the same way you have described it. I am downloading the latest version now. I'll try that first and report back. But I am thinking that its a combination of two things for me.

1. Live 8.05 is buggy in some areas.

2. My Audio drive is 75% full and the sessions are old and have had many changes, along with changes in the Ableton Version Numbers
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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by nafe » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:00 am

Its not an explaination for the dropouts, but freezing the tracks that you arent altering will save on CPU, particularly if you do it to 10-15 of your 40+

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by LeifonMars » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:34 am

It's your hard drive that can't keep up. Try an external HD - save as to your ext HD - collect and save.
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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by ethios4 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:34 pm

It's doubtful an external HD would have higher data rates than an internal, especially on a newer Mac Pro.

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by Furland » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:43 pm

Seems like your system is rather new, but I just have a small FWIW comment, and that is to check and repair disc permissions using the Disk Utility tool. Then when done check the HD using the same tool.
I know it's a small and probably benign step to your solution but see what happens.

I use a MBP 2.66 Dual with an internal 7200 and external FW800 7200RPM disc, and I too occasionally get drop outs due to disc dropouts.
I usually accept the drops and bounce the parts to a different size or resolution while deleting the midi track (if so is present) just to see if anything changes.
Try to freeze the tracks also and see if it changes...

Again you setup is rather new it seems, but everyone can have a DOA harddrive even on a Mac! :-)

G/L

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by 3phase » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:42 pm

angryman wrote:Im getting the same problem, and it basically reads exactly the same way you have described it. I am downloading the latest version now. I'll try that first and report back. But I am thinking that its a combination of two things for me.

1. Live 8.05 is buggy in some areas.

Live 8 in general is buggy in some areas.. however live 8.09 seems to be the best sofar.. only crashes once a day
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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by djsynchro » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:11 pm

It just works

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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by LeifonMars » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:36 pm

ethios4 wrote:It's doubtful an external HD would have higher data rates than an internal, especially on a newer Mac Pro.
Yes, but I'm assuming (which I should have mentioned in my earlier post) that his internal HD is pretty much full, and therefore it's causing the problems.
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Re: why might i be getting dropouts when my cpu is reading 15%?

Post by ethios4 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:11 pm

^ True, that would cause a problem.

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