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palo · Post by **palo** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:23 pm

so here is my problem, why when i render my project in a wave files it actually sounds different than when i'm playing it in aleton?

logic_user99 · Post by **logic_user99** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:27 pm

Check your sample rate. Check the 'normalize' option. Check all the settings!

palo · Post by **palo** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:09 pm

any other advice?

Spazi · Post by **Spazi** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:34 pm

what program do you listen to the rendered file with? and what soundcard?

Ed J · Post by **Ed J** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:39 pm

I sometimes have issues with this, are you using any fx on the master channel?

Sometimes the fx make my renders really really muddy so I have to chuck them all off and mess with the levels of each track a little to get everything sounding a bit clearer

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:40 pm

Are you using any plug in instruments. some plugins behave differently when rendering - greater polyphony for example.

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:55 am

What are your levels? Listening in Live's 32 bit float audio engine will allow you to major redline the buss and not hear clipping, it will tolerate a whole lot of stuff which will bring distortion, artifacts and clipping (which typically dulls the sound first and can be audible as distortion second)in 24 bit (or especially 16 bit rendered audio as required for CD and mp3)

There always will be a difference on a rendered file, but if you know how to mix, leaving headroom and watching levels (proper gain staging), this difference will be much, much less. Also, things such as internal dithering and some plugins which run higher sample rates (i.e. Guitar Rig in high resolution runs at 96 Khz sample rate, even if your project is set to 44.1 etc) will sound slightly different when played back as a rendered 24 or 16 bit file at a different sample rate (i.e. 44.1 Khz which is required for CD audio).

Good mixing technique vastly reduces these differences, so read up and learn and practise, practise, practise mixing. Of course, having good monitors and headphones helps greatly in this process too, so should be the first thing you look at.

A good book on this is Bobby Owsinksi's 'The Mixing Engineer's Handbook (2nd edition)'.
http://www.amazon.com/Mixing-Engineers- ... 942&sr=1-3

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