Am I missing something here?

noggy · Post by **noggy** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:46 pm

For some reason every time I come back into Live and place some tracks into the arrangement window even though they've previously been warped the settings aren't saved and I need to warp all over again - I thought this was saved along with the files in the .asd files?

I'm also trying to mix tracks live - I've got a track playing in the arrangement window and I place another in the track next to it and set it to cue up so that I can pre-listen. Now is it possible to warp this track on the fly through my headphones whilst the main track continues playing? I can't seem to find any way to prompt Live to start playing the track I've cued up so that I can warp it, as it just stops the "main" track from playing in the process.

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:54 pm

noggy wrote:For some reason every time I come back into Live and place some tracks into the arrangement window even though they've previously been warped the settings aren't saved and I need to warp all over again - I thought this was saved along with the files in the .asd files?

Click the "save" button in the clip view (next to the "ram" button, iirc). This will write warping information to file; live doesn't do it by default to save disk space and processing time, I'd imagine.

I'm also trying to mix tracks live - I've got a track playing in the arrangement window and I place another in the track next to it and set it to cue up so that I can pre-listen. Now is it possible to warp this track on the fly through my headphones whilst the main track continues playing? I can't seem to find any way to prompt Live to start playing the track I've cued up so that I can warp it, as it just stops the "main" track from playing in the process.

I'm not entirely sure what your setup is... do you have a multichannel soundcard? What output channels are allocated to live, and which ones are assigned to master/cue? I'm only asking this because I have no problems modifying tracks in a cue'd channel... I usually just cue them by default and then fade them in when I'm ready.

noggy · Post by **noggy** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:56 pm

sqook wrote:I'm not entirely sure what your setup is... do you have a multichannel soundcard? What output channels are allocated to live, and which ones are assigned to master/cue? I'm only asking this because I have no problems modifying tracks in a cue'd channel... I usually just cue them by default and then fade them in when I'm ready.

At present I've got a six channel sound card but for some reason can't seem to channel the master to one pair and cue using another - but that's off topic.

I've currently got Live setup to use the left channel of my normal stereo out as the master and the right channel to cue. I think this is beside the point however, as although the cueing function works as it should with regards to channel setup, my problem is I don't know how to listen to a cued track and warp it whilst a track is currently already playing in the arrangement.

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:36 pm

RTFM
p. 172 - 174
Live4 PDF Manual

Is that it?

noggy · Post by **noggy** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:43 pm

ethios4 wrote:Is that it?

No.

noggy · Post by **noggy** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:48 pm

Ok, let me try and rephrase the question...

I put a track into audio track one in the arrangement window and start it playing out to the house. I now drag my next track that I want to mix in into audio track two and arrange it so that it slightly overlaps with track one towards its end - it's not warped yet, but it needs to be: that's the problem.

How am I meant to keep audio track one playing, whilst starting audio track two through my headphones so that I can warp it up and then drop it in towards the end of track one so that the two are in time?

Am I meant to utilise the session view somehow?

monarkeys · Post by **monarkeys** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:22 am

not too familiar with arrangement view, but it seems to me that you need to put the second track next to the first one so that they are playing back at the same time, send track one to the house and track two to your headphones, do your warping, then slide the second clip so that it overlaps the first one - of course you're gonna have problems if the second track is longer than the first...

supster · Post by **supster** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:25 am

Heres your problem:

The vast majority of people dont DJ in the Arrangement view.

Its not really meant for that

You DJ from the Session View, which is structured for it

Also:

Why are you trying to warp your tracks in the middle of a performance??

Warping tracks is something that is done in advance, as preperation, for every track. Then when you mix, its all ready to go

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:29 am

stop using arranger view.

problem solved.

i'll bill you later

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:41 am

supster wrote: Why are you trying to warp your tracks in the middle of a performance??

Warping tracks is something that is done in advance, as preperation, for every track. Then when you mix, its all ready to go

Not always. I can think of at least one artist that I know who uses live's warping on stage. Listen to the ricky the steamboat tracks; they're generated using 2 computers, one with buzz and the other with live..

Of course, I can see why not everyone would want to make music such as this...

noggy · Post by **noggy** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:48 am

The thing I've found with using the session view is for some reason if I start two tracks running one after the other - even if they're previously warped - they don't start in time and they don't play in time. Hence why I thought the arrangement view had to be used as that was the only way I could get it to work.

And as I previously explained, for some reason my warp settings aren't saved along with the tracks (and I still haven't found the option to do this yet even though it was mentioned somewhere above!). So it's kind of a necessity at the moment to warp "live" (as well as not wanting to go through 1500 tracks warping them all up beforehand - if I want to be a little spontaneous it'd be good to be able to do this in the middle of a set as I'm now able to do it accurately within a couple of minutes).

ernene · Post by **ernene** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:34 pm

when U open an audio sample, i mean when U double-click on it, u get the sample waveform, and 2 windows on the left of it, CLIP and SAMPLE, u can open LAUNCH and ENVELOPE aswell..., inside the SAMPLE window (where the TRANSPOSE is) above on the left u can see the name of the sample, and info (khz, bits, etc), and then U can see 3 buttons: Edit, Repl, SAVE. There it is. Click on it and U will "save" the clip with the last wrap marks u've done on it.
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noggy · Post by **noggy** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:31 pm

Hey ernene, thanks - just what I needed!

Now just need to work out how I can warp a track during a mix...

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