Using operator (or any synth) to create bass "womp"

[Jip]

Hello one and all,

I've recently bought Ableton and operator which has made me realise there is more to synths than just presets!

Bear with me as I'm fairly new to synth programming but can anyone tell me how to adjust attack/decay etc to get that fat rising "womp" bass type sound that you can hear at the end of every few bars in Seamus Haji's -"Last night a DJ saved my life" ???

Other tunes I can think of with similar sounding bass would be Azzido Da Bass - "Dooms night" (Timo Mass remix)

I'm sorry but "Womp" was the best word I could think of to describe it!

[sweetjesus]

You need a nice bass tone to begin with that doesnt have too long an attack and a filter with envelope control.

Run a low pass filter on your bass sound and set the filter at the setting you want to start the "whomp"

Turn the envelope modulation up to a third of the way, then set the ADSR for that envelope to have a slow but not too slow attack

adjust the envelope amount and the attack to suit taste.

[hambone1]

What about the Boogie Pimps 'Somebody To Love' bass sound? Damn near tore my subs apart. Awesome!

[Jip]

Thanks - I will give it a go !

[hacktheplanet]

If your synth has a filter or mod attack setting, try that too.

[czechchap]

What about the Boogie Pimps 'Somebody To Love' bass sound? Damn near tore my subs apart. Awesome!

There was a Future music interview a few months ago with the boogie pimps precisely on how they got that bass sound I'll dig it out and see if it's any good.

[secretagentgel]

ive spent the last few months concentrating largely just on bass. i think i'm going for a different style bass, as mine sounds more like "gwank" than "womp." all the same i've found a few things to be consistently helpful. use multiple synths to build different parts of the bass. it's easy in live cos you can send the same MIDI to multiple tracks. use one synth for the subbass, roll this off and keep it clean, like a plain sine wave. these are the tones that you may or may not hear well on most average systems, but will tear yr car or club apart. then use the other synth(s) to create the "high end" of the bass. distort it, get it nasty. then dial in only as much as you want. put a high pass filter on this so it doesn't compete with the sub bass.

put a high pass filter on both parts rolling off frequencies below anywhere from 70 down to 30. it cleans things up a lot. it's counter-intuitive to lower the bass to make it louder, but it can remove a lot of "mud" and by removing the lowest, loudest frequecies you can usually make it louder and still have it sit in the mix.

eq any basses as tightly as possible, for the same reasons.

good luck and post examples of what you accomplish so we can hear how it came out.

corey

[Jinsai]

The Bass Line plug from Audio Realism (I think that's the name of the company) helps with such things too.. Its reasonably priced as well.. I've toyed around with it at a friend's place.. soon as I save up a bit of cash I'm getting it. Neat and simple.

[hoffman2k]

The Bass Line plug from Audio Realism (I think that's the name of the company) helps with such things too.. Its reasonably priced as well.. I've toyed around with it at a friend's place.. soon as I save up a bit of cash I'm getting it. Neat and simple.

Yeah. i have that one. it's awesome. You can even increase the bass response.

I've found the operator to be great to create beats with a heavy bass too.
I just made one that almost makes my house fall appart. I had to hold my woofer


-B

[michaellacy]

to get that bass whomp just sing it into a lo fi microphone plugged into the AV port of your laptop. then do harmonics of the fundamental on other tracks. add some EQ and rerecord into live. press play and pray. then go to school and learn how to run your gear.