More "sound engine" misinformation - from the Freemasons

[LoopStationZebra]

'Production and Remix Masterclass'

Kill me now.

[ethios4]

I was actually looking for a brown jitter plugin but they're all way too expensive. Good to know I can just setup a series of radiators and steam pipes to generate the necessary temperatures! If I can capture the brownian motion effect on mixes when temperatures exceed 320 K I'll have a hit for sure!

[crumhorn]

Can't believe this thread --> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399 has been so neglected.

Maybe everyone truly is sick of the debate, either that or nobody ever looks in the Wish List forum.

[necho]

Can't believe this thread --> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399 has been so neglected.

Maybe everyone truly is sick of the debate, either that or nobody ever looks in the Wish List forum.

If anyone posts in that thread, I will personally slap them upside the head.

[supamonsta]

Why doesn´t ableton not even have a realtime bounce to disk function?
Yes you can do it via the external audio effect and it will bounce the master in real time
but why cant that be made in the export menu?

this topic was emotionnaly debated on motunation also, because DP hasn't a real-time bouncing function neither.

Live sucks.

DP sucks too.

Viva Fast Tracker II.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399

sorry but I can't manage to decide if it's a joke or a real thread, because speaking fun in the general forum is ok, but in the wishlist!!!???


anyway, I find the best sounding app is cubase.

[supamonsta]

If anyone posts in that thread, I will personally slap them upside the head.

eeh necho, in which thread?

[kb420]

Can't believe this thread --> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399 has been so neglected.

Maybe everyone truly is sick of the debate, either that or nobody ever looks in the Wish List forum.

If anyone posts in that thread, I will personally slap them upside the head.

You should have said you would BITCH slap them upside the head!!!!

[necho]

If anyone posts in that thread, I will personally slap them upside the head.

eeh necho, in which thread?

this thread: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399

[necho]

Can't believe this thread --> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=131399 has been so neglected.

Maybe everyone truly is sick of the debate, either that or nobody ever looks in the Wish List forum.

If anyone posts in that thread, I will personally slap them upside the head.

You should have said you would BITCH slap them upside the head!!!!

Or I could have said that I'll tear off their skin and wear it to their mother's birthday party. (Apologies to Malcolm Tucker)

But that might be seen as a bit extreme.

[UKRuss]

Is it just me or is he actually saying very complimentary things about Live...other than the fixed/floating point error, which could be an SOS editorial error in any case?

I like the Freemasons, local lads from my neck of the woods, great producers.

(I do agree their seminar was probably a bit tedious...)

[Angstrom]

yeah, of course they are being complimentary about Live. But I think the point of this thread is that this is how rumours get started, it's doesn't matter whether they are pro, or anti, any particular software, but only that they justify their stance on spurious logic.

EG : My favourite car is an Audi, and I can justify that choice based on this technical reason : Audi's power steering is based on magical bonsai elephants.

It sort of invalidates any opinion I have on the car if my supposed 'informed' reason is obviously 'uninformed'. (Only Mercedes use magical bonsai elephants)

I can believe there was simply a journalistic mistake in this article, but that doesn't stop it being geekishly funny, and also indicative of how that type of "I read it in a magazine so it must be true " nonsense can spread.

[mustgroove]

Is it just me or is he actually saying very complimentary things about Live...other than the fixed/floating point error, which could be an SOS editorial error in any case?

I like the Freemasons, local lads from my neck of the woods, great producers.

(I do agree their seminar was probably a bit tedious...)

I don't think it's a positive comment ultimately, either in intention or effect...

- He says it uses fixed point processing, which is obviously demonstrably wrong.

- But he only mentions fixed point processing to explain his observation that it has a "different sound" - so if nothing else he's reinforcing the idea that it's somehow different (in sound engine terms) to every other DAW, whether better or worse... when in fact it's exactly the same

- He also mentions it sounds "thinner"... definitely not a positive statement there...

[hoffman2k]

Did anyone notice how much better music sounds if it is cold in the studio? I don't know why, but someone told me, that there is less molecules in the air and therefor less damping and brown jitter.
Is it a good idea to mix only if it is close to ten degrees inside? Any tips welcome.

Coldbert

There are several ways to get this effect
The easy way is to seal all doors and windows and use a vacuum pump on the control room.

The other way is the 'cold tube', this is a pipe that runs from the monitor to your ear, via a bath of liquid nitrogen. The problem with these is if you accidentally "ear sneeze" you can blow liquid frosty music all over the interface.

Lastly, the 'pro' solution is to use speaker cones which are "fully out of phase" with the air molecules, sadly these are expensive, due to the price of antimatter.

[rompling]

[quote="UKRuss"]Is it just me or is he actually saying very complimentary things about Live...other than the fixed/floating point error, which could be an SOS editorial error in any case?

I like the Freemasons, local lads from my neck of the woods, great producers.


+1
Live round the corner from the pub / bar there named after and have spoke to them and seemed nice guys