If i took an old computer keyboard...

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If i took an old computer keyboard...

Post by loren! » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:20 am

could I cut it open, rearrange the keys into a more practical arrangement, and put it back together, makeing my own controler? has anyone done this? does it work?

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Post by serotoninsteve » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:40 pm

Good idea, should work!

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Re: If i took an old computer keyboard...

Post by arzuaga » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:15 pm

loren! wrote:could I cut it open, rearrange the keys into a more practical arrangement, and put it back together, makeing my own controler? has anyone done this? does it work?
and how would you write a simple email? or can you connect more to 1 keyboard to your PC and with both of them control Live? :? maybe I am saying something stupid... :oops:

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Post by Sly One » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:18 am

AFAIK, you can gonnect two keynoards and both will work. One will need to be USB though.

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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:14 am

one great thing about this is that lives qwerty assign is case sensitive.

i have a usb KB that i plug into my laptop and keep on caps for more keys to assign.
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Post by Angstrom » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:52 am

why not use something like a game controller, it may be simpler !

check out this thread from a long long time ago
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19337

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Post by supster » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:43 pm

Angstrom wrote:why not use something like a game controller, it may be simpler !

check out this thread from a long long time ago
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19337

I just ordered the PS2 --> USB adaptor to hook my Playstation controller up to controll 2 XY axis and 16 functions :)

But the custom keyboard idea is a good one as well ... hmm ...
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Post by Front Line Assault » Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:07 am

I tried this with my Apple Pro Keyboard. Here are my steps for making a practical setup for a keyboard controller.

1 - Get a keyboard that you can remove the keys from by poping them out.
2 - Get some spray paint, "black and green for this live 4 controller"
3 - Take out the keys
4 - Spray paint the keys Green and spray paint the keyboard board black.

5 -only put back the keys this tells you to ....put back the keys like this...

Live only accepts the letter areas for controlling, but we will keep a few other keys like the tab are and the caps lock for doubling our controller.

For a basic 6 row from right to left keyboard "Apple Pro is a good example"

KEY --- O = NO KEY ///// [ANYTHING] = KEY ///// - = key section divisions ///// X = no place for a key.

O-OOOO-OOOO-OOOO--OOO--OOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO--OOO--OOOO
[CONTROL][1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]OOOO--OOO--OOOO
[CAPSLOCK][F1][F2][F3][F4][F5][F6][F7][F8][F9]--XXX--OOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOO--XOX--OOOX
OOO[SPACEBAR]OOO--OOO--OXOO

6- enjoy your new black and green keyboard controller. matching colors of ableton live will brighten your spirits!

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what can you control with that keyboard??

Post by nexus-6 » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:24 am

hi i am also thinking to hook another keyboard on to my lap-top,and use it to control live 4,but what can you control with that keyboard??
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can we see pictures??

Post by nexus-6 » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:37 am

front line

i was thinking if you could show us some pictures of your project??that would be cool??

another question is there a way too build some knobs in too the keyboard??
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Post by Front Line Assault » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:45 am

no, keyboards can only send midi messages that are ether 0 or 127, or on or off. they are just sensor pads.

and i can't post pictures but i can make a diagram in photoshop.. ill post it tomorrow.

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:01 am

Curious! :)

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Post by beamsville » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:24 pm

I'd recommend you have a look at the Nostromo Speedpad (intended for gaming), made by Belkin.

It's a small USB keyboard for one hand... each key can be mapped to what ever key you desire, using the driver. In fact, I believe that even *sequences* of keys can be mapped to a single Speedpad key.

Anyway, it's cheap, and easily configurable using the driver.


http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... Id=157024#

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Post by doki_pen » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:58 am

dude, i really like this idea.

what i like is

1) keyboards are friggin cheap

2) you don't have to load any driver or anything to work with the interface, one less things to worry about causing a conflict and possibly locking up your laptop playing live.

thanks for thinking outside the box

Jon

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interesting hardware

Post by beamsville » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:42 pm

readers of this thread might be interested in this hardware:

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-16045-1608-x-x-x

looks pretty cool!

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