Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by digitalgeist » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:50 pm

morbid wrote:when is a daw not a daw?

when its ajar!
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by smutek » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:53 pm

Tone Deft wrote:can't think for yourself?

is Sasha told you that dick tasted good would you be out giving free blowjobs?
Nice.

When I launch Ableton I could care less about what Charlie May said and I could care less about a difference in sound that I need some special machine to see.

If that's your gig than fine, use different software or bounce to logic or whatever the hell it is you or Charlie May wants to do. Problem solved, move on, have fun, make money, whatever your gig is.

I never participate in these conversations because I have absolutely no idea what is being discussed and to me they are dull. I was a noob in 2002, I'm still a noob in 2009 and that's the way I like it. As such I could give a rats ass what Charlie May says about the summing engine.

There's a certain liberating feeling in that.

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by smutek » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:54 pm

ping pong

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by henke » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:13 pm

Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams" was recorded on a four track recorder.

I have stems here from a very recent PT HD project from a known band who once was pioneering electronic pop music and had an absolutely amazing sound while still working with 12 bit samplers...
60+ tracks summing up to a wall of - nothing.

Exercise:

A person is making a track. He/She is not entirely happy with the result so far, sound wise. Rate the following possibilities to improve the track:

a) asking a good friend about the balance of the instruments in the mix
b) listing to the mix in a different location and making notes
c) wait for some days and rethink the usage of effects and the EQing
d) improve the listening situation by moving speakers, adding damping to the walls etc..
e) replace the power cords from the computer
f) smoke a joint or stop smoking a joint while mixing
g) drinking less / more coffee / tee during mixing
h) mix in the morning and not at 2 am after a full work day.
i) discuss issues of engines in audio software.

Robert

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by kb420 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:29 pm

henke wrote:smoke a joint or stop smoking a joint while mixing


Robert


Ladies and gentleman, let's have a round of applause for Mr. Robert Henke one of the founding members of Ableton!!!!! :D :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by morbid » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:35 pm

kb420 wrote:
henke wrote:smoke a joint while mixing


Robert


Ladies and gentleman, let's have a round of applause for Mr. Robert Henke one of the founding members of Ableton!!!!! :D :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by kb420 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:40 pm

"That which does not kill us makes us stronger..........."
-Friedrich Nietzsche-

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by arafel » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:05 pm

There is this exact same "sum engine" discussion over at Logic Pro Help... about every 2 months. Or every time Pro Tools or Nuendo update something.

Waste of Space.
But.. worth it to see henke's list.

+1 Sticky
henke wrote:Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams" was recorded on a four track recorder.

I have stems here from a very recent PT HD project from a known band who once was pioneering electronic pop music and had an absolutely amazing sound while still working with 12 bit samplers...
60+ tracks summing up to a wall of - nothing.

Exercise:

A person is making a track. He/She is not entirely happy with the result so far, sound wise. Rate the following possibilities to improve the track:

a) asking a good friend about the balance of the instruments in the mix
b) listing to the mix in a different location and making notes
c) wait for some days and rethink the usage of effects and the EQing
d) improve the listening situation by moving speakers, adding damping to the walls etc..
e) replace the power cords from the computer
f) smoke a joint or stop smoking a joint while mixing
g) drinking less / more coffee / tee during mixing
h) mix in the morning and not at 2 am after a full work day.
i) discuss issues of engines in audio software.

Robert
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by ethios4 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:42 pm

Clearly the correct answer is (I)!

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by davepermen » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:52 pm

ethios4 wrote:Clearly the correct answer is (I)!
there are actually other answers? :)
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by sublimelobc » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:10 pm

Top producers and engineers worldwide are constantly preaching that the number one industry "secret" to a great audio mix is their constant discussions and arguments on summing engines. It is becoming more and more obvious that good song writing, musicianship and engineering have very little to do with the quality of the final result, it's all about the summing engine!

Few people are aware that Ocean Way has the worlds most sought after summing engine.

Borrowed without permission from Ocean Way's website:

"Ocean Way Recording is the world's most awarded studio complex. Recordings made at our studios have sold in excess of 1 Billion units.

Generations of music icons, from Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Ray Charles, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, and Michael Jackson, all the way to contemporary artists like Green Day, Dr. Dre, Radiohead, Kanye West, and The Red Hot Chili Peppers, all choose Ocean Way for its phenomenal sounding rooms, customized equipment, impeccable electronic maintenance, and access to the music industry's most famous summing engine."

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by SubFunk » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:15 pm

henke wrote:f) smoke a joint or stop smoking a joint while mixing

j) take your tracks to your favourite mastering engineer.
what took you so long?
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by ikeaboy » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:47 pm

henke wrote: e) replace the power cords from the computer
Robert
I've seen adverts for plug boards for hifi systems that improve music clairty and bass response :lol:

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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by SubFunk » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:54 pm

ikeaboy wrote:
henke wrote: e) replace the power cords from the computer
Robert
I've seen adverts for plug boards for hifi systems that improve music clairty and bass response :lol:
buy monster cables. they will sum it all up.
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Re: Charlie May from Spooky bags the Ableton Sound Engine

Post by digitalgeist » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:57 pm

SubFunk wrote:buy monster cables. they will sum it all up.
Yeah $$$$$$$
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