Live 4.1 stopped audio output during a show...

boreta · Post by **boreta** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:22 pm

I was playing a show saturday night on a Powerbook G4 1.25ghz / M-audio firewire audiophile and about 40 minutes into it, with no sign of a disk or CPU overload, doing nothing complex but bringing in the volume of 1 track, the audio cut out. All of the volume meters dropped and it was dead silent for about two seconds, then it just started where it had left off.

Any ideas what this was or how to make it not happen again?

Thanks!

EnjoyRC · Post by **EnjoyRC** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:03 pm

It's been pointed out here many times. Live 4 + M-Audio + Firewire = Troubles. Do some searches... you'll see. It does exactly what you're experiencing.

boreta · Post by **boreta** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:20 pm

How about a MOTU828 MKII? A friend has one I could borrow, does that work better than the audiophile?

beateater · Post by **beateater** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:23 pm

Hang on, other people have had similar issues without using m-audio products, don't sell it just yet.
Logic dictates that you'd be better off trying to find out what caused the problem, then if you KNOW it's Audiophile and the issue can't be resolved, then you should sell it.

boreta · Post by **boreta** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:25 pm

Ok, thanks for the advice...

i see what you're saying. I am not saying i am gonna just go out and sell the audiophile but for playing a show this friday will the 828 work out ok?

beateater · Post by **beateater** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:52 pm

I wouldn't know, I have an M-audio F410 and haven't had a problem. hehe
(I am on windows however, and I think those compatabilty issues are mainly with Mac- checkout your drivers)

Post by **Alex** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:22 am

Hi boreta,

can you let us know which version of Mac OS X do you use?

regards,
Alex

sniffio · Post by **sniffio** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:05 pm

Hello Alex.
It's very nice that you are helping out.
Thanks for you work and your patience.

I just wanted to let you guys know that I had used 828mk2
and had extactly the same trouble.
I tried using it with three different brand new powerbooks
and the problem would alway accure,
30-40 mins, yes that time brings back memories.

I switched to PCMCIA soundcard, RME Multiface, and the problem dissapeared.

Good luck guys.

PS
if the glicth occures once, the chances for the second one will drop.
If you have a rehersal. let it play for more than an hour and let it glitch.
It often happens in about 20-50 mins.

sniffio · Post by **sniffio** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:06 pm

BTW, I think I tried it on 10.3.3-10.3.6.

boreta · Post by **boreta** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:48 pm

Hey Alex,

I have the latest OS X - 10.3.8. Thanks for your help... the problem is very unfortunate

Sniffio - what do you mean when you say "the second one will drop." If i have time to let it play for an hour are you saying it will not happen during the second hour?

sniffio · Post by **sniffio** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:34 am

yes.
it is not 100%, but there is a better chance it won't.
or less likely to happen.

The second glitch will occure when you load another Live Set from the begining.

But plz remember that this is only based on luck.
I had many times with the Second glitch.

wishing you the best luck for your gig.

BTW if you won't be needing to use multiple in/out,
i would recommend to use the built-in sound-card.
It won''t glicth and i heard it has better latency.
Just make sure the plugs won't move or drop out during the show.

Zky · Post by **Zky** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:36 am

ok..I been using my pbook.ableton and motu in many gigs with no probs at all

os x 10.3.6

but I´m about to get another audio interface for another pbook,,soI would like to know how the f410 is behaving with osx and ableton..(way more cheaper than the motu)..so i will be checking this posts

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:19 am

ive tried a motu 828,motu 828 mk2 and they both do it.i think live 4 needs a complete overhaul.whatever that means

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:47 am

No problems 800mhz Powerbook, MOTU 828, M-Audio Midisport 4x4, Live 4.......

Zky · Post by **Zky** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:03 am

machines..

u are using a 410 with osx? wich os u have?

and wich motu?