Question for Live Performers

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Question for Live Performers

Post by supster » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:31 pm

Being on this forum over the past years made me realize something

A lot of you are using live to preform non-traditionally. ie. you are not doing a traditional "dance DJ" set .. or a variation of that .... house, breaks, techno, trance, hip-hop.

Whether thats doing your own stuff and peforming/remixing it on the fly, doing transitions between your tracks somehow until live supports multiple "livesets" in one project ..

Or doing ambient, or avant jazz, or experimental, or microtonal tibetan yak yodleing with MC ..

Where are you playing? Who is booking you? Club owners generally hire DJ's or DJ type performers that play full sets of dance music people know and follow. These are teh people that pay doorcharges and buy drinks

So are you playing coffeehouses? Afterhours? College events? Art galleries?

I am really curious because here in Orlando or most other places Ive lived we are not seeing that. Or I am not aware of shows like this
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Post by mosca » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:34 pm

nowhere - scotland doesnt have that much of a scene for the music i do

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Post by conny » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:09 pm

Yea, and I'm waving from my kitchen table.
Planning to hiring myself when reading my texts in some cellar with friends.
No money in this for me.
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Post by Desiduous » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:25 am

i often play at an Indian restaurant here in Vancouver BC,. nice place good vibe with giant fireplace. less like a concert or a club,.. more like a relaxing place to hang out ,. listen to music and exchange ideas

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Post by Machinesworking » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:39 am

My first show using Live 4 was this Saturday at an art gallery opening, it was my singer Rachel's first show ever, and 300+ people were there! 8O

I'm not a DJ at all. I write all the songs from scratch, no canned beats, hardly any samples of other people's music in general.
I run everything through the powerbook, her vocals and my moog, that way I can put FX and set levels within Live. It's not typical dance music, maybe more like industrial/IDM/dark new wave, and I suppose we'll end up playing to the goth kids a lot, though I want to make sure not to get stereotyped as a goth band, I'm a fucking redneck by trade, and though the girls might be cute, the straight goth boys make me ill. Basically we will be doing rock clubs, veterans halls and art galleries. Pretty much a typical rock band approach.

The money won't be there for quite some time I suppose, it's a labor of love at this point, but my singer is a pretty, cute, 19 year old, and angry, which when you're that cute, just makes you seem more cute! Jeez I hope she never reads this? she would have my head on a plate! 8O

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Post by Pitch Black » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:48 am

Machinesworking, for some reason the Jack Black line from "School of Rock" pops into my head:

"I'm a teacher... all I need are minds for moulding..."



Channel that energy sir, and may it take you wherever you want to go!

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Post by AdamJay » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:54 am

Machinesworking wrote:I'm a fucking redneck by trade, and though the girls might be cute, the straight goth boys make me ill.
hahahaha
you crack me, and you also make me feel better about playing to rave kiddies and 17 year old euro-clubbers.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by dirtystudios » Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:25 am

coffeeshops mainly. they tend be a pretty great venue. i did, through some bizzare twist of fate, end up playing the local christian college, which was awkward to say the least. these folks had all the musical range of the latest jars of clay album and here i am dropping the glitch bomb on them. i think they were, for the most part, annoyed... which at least left me with a sense of accomplishment, having annoyed some born-agains.

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Post by myztmuzic » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:19 am

I got this problem myself; no places to play my psychedelic-ambient livesets in Norway.. - As far as i've been told, you have to step up with classic DJ-stuff, like turntables and whatever they prefer as controllers/soundunits,and there you go like a blow clubbing like a wind - if the beats are right for the drunk masses. Have to rearrange a lot of songs, so they fits into the drunk "just give me something my foot can move to"-beat,.. very confusing when you mix DOWN (!) a lot of good songs to fit a drunkies needs. My smokin' beats & Canned' biz don't hit those like they hit the indians smoking their pipe :wink:

So; no money in this for me at the moment.. It have to change SOON, or i DO go mad!

Thats the reason i try to get a management to sign me again, so i might be able to release albums for the masses - I - l i k e - to lead into a journey with my tunes.. And my Livesets can be played as is insted of mixing them down to fit others.. Guess it's the only proper way here in Norway. But this country sucks a LOT!! So if you don't need to go here, don't! (unless you got a hand on one of our pretty girls, tho :) )

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Post by 4am » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:38 am

before to start playing electronic music i played jazz in clubs, restaurants, small theatres and even weddings ... and for years i didn't really like electronic music...
these times i'm playing my minimal tech sets around the swiss clubs, and try to involve elements of jazz/latin/flamenco...
i'm not djing, i only play livesets

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Post by matheo » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:58 am

I play in a New-Jazz/Electro down tempo group: machines (Live4-based), electric double bass, singer and other instrumentists (saxophone, flute)
At the moment we only made 5 shows in the last 6 months because it's a little bit hard to find a place to play our set here in Paris...
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Post by Machinesworking » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:18 pm

AdamJay wrote:hahahaha
you crack me, and you also make me feel better about playing to rave kiddies and 17 year old euro-clubbers.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ah, the only creature with as low of an emotional intelligence IQ as goth boys, e-tards! :wink:

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Post by supster » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:08 pm

Machinesworking wrote:.. my singer is a pretty, cute, 19 year old, and angry, which when you're that cute, just makes you seem more cute! Jeez I hope she never reads this? she would have my head on a plate! 8O

hahaha ... funny how that works out, isnt it.

"you're so hot when you're pissed off, you know that .... "

"look: just stfu and keep clicking on that thing. Loser"

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by logickal » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:05 pm

Here in Nashville, we play them like it's any other "rockshow." Find a club with an open night and go for it. Some coffeehouses, art gallery openings, etc. Of course, this is the more experimental side - glitch, idm, noise type stuff. Audiences around here are kind of strange and hard to predict. Sometimes we have 10 people, sometimes 100+. All just depends on the weather, I suppose.
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Re: Question for Live Performers

Post by Vercengetorex » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:19 pm

supster wrote:I am really curious because here in Orlando or most other places Ive lived we are not seeing that. Or I am not aware of shows like this
Oh man! Supster!! You need to get your ass over to the AKA Lounge in downtown Orlando. And over to Stardust over in... somewhereland Orlando. I lived in Winterpark for a year, and had a great time getting involved in the music scene...

Funkstorung at the AKA Lounge was fucking sweet.

http://www.orlandocitybeat.com/barsandc ... links-bars

Oh yeah, the Peacock Room!

http://www.orlandocitybeat.com/barsandc ... links-bars

And finally Stardust Videos and Coffee (its not a club, but they have GREAT beer, excellent food (and coffee), and a neat little stage.

http://www.orlandocitybeat.com/dining/s ... 4313.venue

Stardust was one of my favorite places to take the powerbook and my good phones to edit a song while eating the best damn vegatarian nachos I ever had, along with a very cloudy unfiltered belgian wheat beer. They also have the most incredible collection of underground, cult, and very old films I have ever seen.
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