Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

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summer
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Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by summer » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:52 pm

Hello there

I know I can end the recording by pressing the same button on the Launchpad, but sometimes I have to little time and hit the wrong button when moving my hands from the keyboard to the Launchpad.

Is there some sort of "global stop recording and start looping" the last active clip? then i could assign it to the sustain pedal and not having to worry about moving my hands at light speed towards the Launchpad.

Hope I made myself clear :)

//Summer

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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by Saxer » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:43 am

thats one of the strangest thing in ableton live... making the musician jump to the tiny stop button in the clip while playing!
what helps is to press "enter" on the computer keyboard. i use bomes midi translator (on mac) to have this "enter" stroke on my foot pedal.
i cant understand, that this is not available in live itself!

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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by Pasha » Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:48 am

I use a sustain pedal attached to BCF2000 in a preset I wrote to emulate MCU. There is a function in the implementation that does that but only on the selected scene. BTW this method can be used also to launch a scene and rec like Launchpad does.
The function is the Scrub referenced at page 414 of Live 7 manual.
Full Mackie Reference here : http://home.comcast.net/~robbowers11/MCMap.htm

At page 404 of the same manual you can find how to map (a Key or a MIDI control) to a couple of controls in paragraph Relative Session View Navigation without MCU emulation.

I'd map the hold pedal to button '3' as referenced in the manual:

3. Assign this button to launch the highlighted scene. If the Record/Warp/Launch
Preferences’ Select Next Scene on Launch option is checked, you can move
successively (and hopefully successfully!) through the scenes.


.. while leaving keyboard arrows mapped as they are to scroll the scenes pointer up&down.

Hope it helps.
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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by summer » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:51 pm

@Pasha: I looked it up and thought I almost had it using the "Relative Session View Navigation". Problem is that using this technique forces me to restrict the pedal to one column, or start playing all clips in the current row after clip ends recording, OR jump to another scene entirely depending on which buttons I set the pedal to activate. As far as I can see there is no solution to stop the currently recording clip without doing something else as well.

@Saxer: Your solution only works if the clip has been started/selected with the mouse. This doesn't happen when I start recording a new clip via the Launchpad. I do agree with you, though, that if there is nothing build right in to Live, then this is clearly a function that needs to implemented asap. In fact I cannot even figure out many of the videos on youtube where people actually do seem to have this functionality.

One solution would be to fill out the empty grid with empty clips of 4 beats which i could then record on using overdub. But then that would restrict me to only using 4 beats for every clip.

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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:40 am

Maybe I didn't understand the problem, but for me, there is an ultra simple solution. Just midi map the global play button for the track. Then, 2 solutions :
1.
-trigger the rec by launching by hand. It selects the clip.
-hit the midifootcontrol.

2.
Make everything with the foot.
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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:42 am

Ok sorry, you want to use the sustain pedal. Sorry then. I thought you had a midi foot controler.
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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by Saxer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:44 pm

chapelier fou wrote:Maybe I didn't understand the problem, but for me, there is an ultra simple solution. Just midi map the global play button for the track. Then, 2 solutions :
1.
-trigger the rec by launching by hand. It selects the clip.
-hit the midifootcontrol.

2.
Make everything with the foot.
that doesnt work well: when recording in session view is stoped by the play-button, the clip is not rounded to complete bars. so you cant loop it without editing the length by mouse.
Last edited by Saxer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by Saxer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:45 pm

summer wrote: @Saxer: Your solution only works if the clip has been started/selected with the mouse. This doesn't happen when I start recording a new clip via the Launchpad. I do agree with you, though, that if there is nothing build right in to Live, then this is clearly a function that needs to implemented asap. In fact I cannot even figure out many of the videos on youtube where people actually do seem to have this functionality.
you are right, it doesnt work with the launch pad! what a drag...

*edit*

one second - seems to work for me!
explaining: i have a mackie control. there is a "zoom" button, which does the same as the "enter" key on my computer keyboard. this "zoom/enter" key on the mackie control stops working when recording clips per launch pad.
but i can stop pad-clip recording by hitting the real "enter" key on my computer keyboard.
i have to try if the "enter on keyboard" could be stroken by pedal (over bomes midi translator). i´ll check that out.

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Re: Start midi recording from Launchpad and end it with pedal?

Post by Pasha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:07 pm

Saxer wrote:
summer wrote: @Saxer: Your solution only works if the clip has been started/selected with the mouse. This doesn't happen when I start recording a new clip via the Launchpad. I do agree with you, though, that if there is nothing build right in to Live, then this is clearly a function that needs to implemented asap. In fact I cannot even figure out many of the videos on youtube where people actually do seem to have this functionality.
you are right, it doesnt work with the launch pad! what a drag...

*edit*

one second - seems to work for me!
explaining: i have a mackie control. there is a "zoom" button, which does the same as the "enter" key on my computer keyboard. this "zoom/enter" key on the mackie control stops working when recording clips per launch pad.
but i can stop pad-clip recording by hitting the real "enter" key on my computer keyboard.
i have to try if the "enter on keyboard" could be stroken by pedal (over bomes midi translator). i´ll check that out.
I have that done mapping a pedal to Mackie Zoom in my BCF2000 (using a made preset not the MCU factory emulation).
They (Launchpad + BCF_Mackie) work fine together.

- Best
- Pasha
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