concept behind a and b chance settings

[joneblaze]

in session view when i have clips staked in the same track and i am setting them up to trigger one after another, there is a setting that allows you to put in a value that sets the likely hood of that next action to happen. its says if you put 0 the action wont happen. Anyway i notice you can put as high a value there as you want. Can you explain the concept of this... Why would you not set the likely hood as high as possible if you know you want the action to happen, and why would you set a low number not knowing if was gonna happen at all. Thank you this is my first post i just registered, i look forward to using this forum to assist me in my growth as an ableton user.

[yur2die4]

It is like the colors of a deck of cards.

If you have 26/26, you have a 50/50 chance of drawing red or black.

If you take out all the reds, it is 26/0. this means that you will always draw black.

If you have only two cards, one red, one black it is 1/1 (like 1/1 on the chance settings). Again, there is always a 50/50 chance that you will draw red or black.

If you have one black, and no red 1/0, then you will always draw black.. If you want the person to always draw black, then all you need is one black card, instead of all 26 black cards

If you want odds in favor of black!.. but still a little red, you could have 2 black cards, 1 red card. 2/1.

If you reeeally don't want them drawing red, but want a very very rare instance, you could do 26 black, 1 red. Theoretically out of 27 attempts (or plays of that clip), you will only get red once.

Hope that was a good analogy

[joneblaze]

analogy was great and i do understand it, but it doesnt address why it is necessary in ableton. If i set the action to trigger , i will always want it to trigger.. let me make my question less vague. Can you describe an instance when you would set a trigger to happen but you set the chance setting so low that it may or may not happen, and how do you work that into your set when you dont even know whats gonna happen.

[rikrak]

The thing is that you are choosing the odds for TWO possibilities.

One is that the CURRENT clip will play again and the other is that some OTHER clip will play.

If this OTHER clip plays, the focus moves to that clip and therefore the Follow Action settings on that clip are used for the next trigger. In this way you can set a pattern of movement that is more likely to favour some clips over others but in which all clips have a chance of being played.

[joneblaze]

ok, so this sounds to me like its not a full proof system with just a yes or no, but we are using these settings that are some how connected to coding within ableton, that allow ableton to determine what the user wants to happen thus the settings help the odds and likely hood of the action taking place. i understand in theory, its just odd that its not automatic. It must have something to do with some of the self correcting,warping,beat matching features ableton uses. Since it makes self corrections within the program these values must be a form of language to ableton to help it determine where you want to go, simply a yes or no must not be enough for ableton when it is trying to make corrections. thanks so much also how high of a number is normal to use i see you can put any value in, i mean from 1 to 1000 do you ever need to go that high to assure an action happens?

[yur2die4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcGB8BFrG04

Starting at around 2:00min of this video is a very usable application of these settings

Edit: Or this one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_F-uJ_0 ... rn-1r-6-HM