remap APC40: delete standard mappings | + led ring type

[phränki]

If these issues already were treated here, I'm sorry. But there are sooo many unsorted posts about the APC40 + M4L and after 2 days torturing the forum search i found no solution. So here my questions:

1. How to delete the standard mappings of the APC in live?
Remapping is no problem, but i want to delete the standard track/device controls and faders, without assigning a new controller to them. At least as long as there isn't found any solution for an APC user mode issue. If there is a solution, please let me know.

2. After remapping controllers:

...the corresponding knob only shows a single LED lit, and that single LED moves across the full range. (normally all preceding light are lit)...

Is this intended? Or is it an error? Can I change the type of this LED ring behavior, maybe simply without M4L?

Many thanks in advance!!

[S4racen]

Hi Mate,

Two things to look for... a post in the max4live forum called Disable APC40, high mountain has done a lot of the work in understanding how to isolate areas of the APC and switch them off...

Secondly the APC40 Protocol document, it details within it the three states of the ring encoder, from memory, volume pan and range? It's within this document that it tells you the messages you need to send the APC to select between the three.... as to how to formulate these messages in max and send them to the APC i'm in the dark and you'll probably have to wait like the rest of us till the Control_Surface is properly documented....

Out of interest what are you planning to remap? I've disconnected the stop buttons, activator, recarm and cue along with the cue volume knob to allow me to give 10 different functions to each button and could do with getting a grip of what other people would see as useful to control?

Cheers
D

[phränki]

Thanks, D!

Okay i found the Disable APC40 post. And i already had seen the ring
types in the protocol document. But to get use of these informations
I first have to get deeper into the M4L matter through the tutorials.
In the meantime I have to setup the APC for all my gigs in a useful
way. I hoped Ableton/Akai offered a simpler way to edit such basic
key things, IMO essential for any midi controller. Something like the
"Novation Automap" would be great.

Anyway, nice that you're asking what people could need!
In my set the rotary banks are mapped to individual parts of the set,
e.g. the Lowpass Filter of the main synth in part 7. Every part has
its column (or two) in the bank, so I need to unmap the preset mappings
for unused knobs in order to not getting confused or changing the wrong
parameters (e.g. pan) during the live gig unintended.
I use some of the RecArm buttons to mute single drums in my central
drum rack, for the rest of these and the solo, activator and track
selection buttons i'm searching for useful ideas, too :)

I'd love to have this: Using the activator, solo and recarm buttons
as a separate 8x3 matrix for a step sequencer, in order to use the
clip buttons in their usual way, while drumsequencing down there.
Track selection buttons select the particular drum, so you could have
two lines of this separate matrix for all 16 steps (the third for
muting/activating several drums maybe). Similar to the Korg Electribe.
To me this would me most useful, awesome. But every live set is
built up individual, don't know if others could need this, too.

Thanks for your attention!