EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by supamonsta » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:09 pm

AHHHHHH THE MADNESS!!!
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first time I see the cool smoking cat getting angry.

loooosing controoooool with my pad kontroooooool





EDIT : in french, "padkontrol" can be heard as "pas de contrôle", that means "no control"... :wink:

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by squelcht » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:55 pm

monstrejumo wrote:
AHHHHHH THE MADNESS!!!
.

first time I see the cool smoking cat getting angry.

loooosing controoooool with my pad kontroooooool





EDIT : in french, "padkontrol" can be heard as "pas de contrôle", that means "no control"... :wink:
Everything is groovy now. Soon I shall have a Padkontrol in my rig & my fingers will make happy dances in which I shall sequence their movements with harmonious drum & percussion plugins...And if my fingers tire & fail me, I shall continue with my toes.

If a kid can learn to paint pictures with his feet/toes then BY GOD I WILL LEARN TO DROP MADD BEATS WITH MINE!! :twisted:

I think I just created a new stage act... :o 8O :D

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by ThrowAway » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:47 am

squelcht wrote:
madlab wrote:I know the fix for the akai series but that implies opening the unit and put some layers of gaffer tape under each pad and that breaks the warranty.
:?: :? Thats just retarded :|

Hmmmm if your 100$ piece of kit happens to break while in its warranty and its issues is something that happens to be covered you still have to pay 30 or dollars to ship it back. Im just saying the pad sensitivity shouldnt be a factor in anyones decision making, at least from my point of view.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by delicioso » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:46 am

ThrowAway wrote:Im just saying the pad sensitivity shouldnt be a factor in anyones decision making, at least from my point of view.
But pad sensitivity has everything to do with expressiveness and versatility. Try playing melodies of sustained notes on Akai's MPC/MPD pads. You can't do it easily because they were designed for percussive use. Padkontrol is just way more versatile in terms of expressiveness.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by madlab » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:11 am

ThrowAway wrote:
squelcht wrote:
madlab wrote:I know the fix for the akai series but that implies opening the unit and put some layers of gaffer tape under each pad and that breaks the warranty.
:?: :? Thats just retarded :|

Hmmmm if your 100$ piece of kit happens to break while in its warranty and its issues is something that happens to be covered you still have to pay 30 or dollars to ship it back. Im just saying the pad sensitivity shouldnt be a factor in anyones decision making, at least from my point of view.
So you mean there's no warranty anyway ? 8O
If pad sensitivity isn't a factor of choicefor a pad controller, then I guess you paint your rythm parts with the mouse ?
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by ThrowAway » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:17 pm

I can adjust my akais pads to be 100 times more sensitive than any stock padkontrol.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by ThrowAway » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:17 pm

please reread the thread.

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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by madlab » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:58 pm

SubFunk wrote: if i understand you correctly the PadK should follow, if i move the black square either way... one octave up or down???
That's it. I've got to check what are the exact settings in the prefs and see what are the notes settings on the durm racks and scene 1 of the pk to answer your other question
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by madlab » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:01 pm

ThrowAway wrote:I can adjust my akais pads to be 100 times more sensitive than any stock padkontrol.
So what is this mysterious ancient eastern technic implied in your black magic ?
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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by SubFunk » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:58 pm

madlab wrote:
SubFunk wrote: if i understand you correctly the PadK should follow, if i move the black square either way... one octave up or down???
That's it. I've got to check what are the exact settings in the prefs and see what are the notes settings on the durm racks and scene 1 of the pk to answer your other question
please! I would like to know.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by delicioso » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:36 pm

You can always reset your padkontrol to factory default settings to ensure that Scene 1 you're using is set up correctly.

Live's MIDI preferences should look like this:
In Preference > Midi Sync tab choose "PadKontrol" as the control surface. Then for input choose port 2.
midi in TRACK turned on in from the pK for port 2: "PadKONTROL Input ("MIDIIN2 (PadKONTROL))
midi out TRACK turned on to the pK

You should now be automapped to the 16 pads of the Drum Rack as you scroll up and down.

I actually prefer to use farmpad with my padkontrol instead of using it as a control surface.
You can still control Drum Rack and make all kinds of custom scenes and do things like mapping every button and knob to any type of MIDI message. It also allows you to get padkontrol's touchpad to work just like a kaoss pad. And I like that you can have scrolling texts on the led display for the name of each scene.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by ThrowAway » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:44 pm

madlab wrote:
ThrowAway wrote:I can adjust my akais pads to be 100 times more sensitive than any stock padkontrol.
So what is this mysterious ancient eastern technic implied in your black magic ?
theres a thread 10 or so pages long in this sub forum explaining exactly how to do this.


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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by delicioso » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:55 am

ThrowAway wrote:
madlab wrote:So what is this mysterious ancient eastern technic implied in your black magic ?
theres a thread 10 or so pages long in this sub forum explaining exactly how to do this.
Most people won't go through the trouble of "modding" a controller that is limited by design when you can get the padkontrol which already does it out of the box.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by Cool Character » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:09 am

ThrowAway wrote:
madlab wrote:
ThrowAway wrote:I can adjust my akais pads to be 100 times more sensitive than any stock padkontrol.
So what is this mysterious ancient eastern technic implied in your black magic ?
theres a thread 10 or so pages long in this sub forum explaining exactly how to do this.
Haha, the tape trick?

Uhh, maybe the pads will be 100 times more sensitive than ITSELF before, but I honestly doubt you've compared the two objectively to come to the conclusion you did.

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